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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 594703, member: 66"]Roosevelt DID think Barber's coins were ugly, but they could not be touched without Congressional approval because they had not been in production for 25 years yet.</p><p><br /></p><p>Roosevelt did object to the motto IGWT being on the coins, but it had nothing to do with Barbers designs. It was a personal belief and as far as I know he had no intention of trying to push for legislation to remove it. He was smart enough to know that would be a powderkeg. He simply checked to see if the laws REQUIRED the motto to be on the coins he was having redesigned (Specifically Saint-Gaudens coins) and if not could it be left off? Saint-Gaudens felt the same way about the motto and had no objection to leaving it off. The fewer inscriptions the better.</p><p><br /></p><p>And tmoneyeagles was confusing Saint-Gaudens death from cancer in 1907 with Roosevelt. Saint-Gaudens did see the first trial pieces but did die without seeing any of the final production coins or even the UHR trial pieces. I would have to double check RWB's book to find out specifically which trial piece he did see. Probably the double thick piece. (Roosevelt couldn't have died in1907 because he's not one of the President that died in office, his term ended in 1908, and he ran for President again as part of the Bull-Moose Party in 1912.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 594703, member: 66"]Roosevelt DID think Barber's coins were ugly, but they could not be touched without Congressional approval because they had not been in production for 25 years yet. Roosevelt did object to the motto IGWT being on the coins, but it had nothing to do with Barbers designs. It was a personal belief and as far as I know he had no intention of trying to push for legislation to remove it. He was smart enough to know that would be a powderkeg. He simply checked to see if the laws REQUIRED the motto to be on the coins he was having redesigned (Specifically Saint-Gaudens coins) and if not could it be left off? Saint-Gaudens felt the same way about the motto and had no objection to leaving it off. The fewer inscriptions the better. And tmoneyeagles was confusing Saint-Gaudens death from cancer in 1907 with Roosevelt. Saint-Gaudens did see the first trial pieces but did die without seeing any of the final production coins or even the UHR trial pieces. I would have to double check RWB's book to find out specifically which trial piece he did see. Probably the double thick piece. (Roosevelt couldn't have died in1907 because he's not one of the President that died in office, his term ended in 1908, and he ran for President again as part of the Bull-Moose Party in 1912.)[/QUOTE]
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