Another one to report.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Problem is that is NOT what it says!
     
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  3. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    "1 Troy Ounce SILVER BULLION INDIAN HEAD WHEAT CENT CLAD ART BAR 1 of 999-P#1022A"
    "This is a fine plated/clad silver bar that is perfect for adding to everyone's collection and makes a great gift!"

    AND

    "1 OZ OUNCE GERMAN NAZI SWASTIKA .999 PURE 24K GOLD 3RD REICH IRON CROSS WWII BAR" This one demands that you read the description which states:

    "Note: This is not an ounce of gold but still a great investment because of the incredible THICK layer of gold! Collectible & Value in one. They are going fast!"

    Regardless of what they actually say, it's what certain posters actually "read into" what they say that counts. Right?

    Good thing they didn't say "New and Improved" like so many advertisements which are seen today where nothing except the packaging is actually improved.

    Oh well, let the self appointed and highly edumacated in human psychology do whatever they feel they MUST do to protect humanity from themselves.
     
  4. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    CLAD sure was put far down the line on the title...why not say SILVER/CLAD BULLION to start with. Got that used car feel to it...but hey that's just my opinion.

    Do you feel seller is 100% honest?

    By the way, I don't care much about Ebay and don't report jack to them. Listing is not 100% honest.
     
  5. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    What I think this thread needs is a brave soul to hijack this and turn it into something numismatically interesting. Who's up to the challenge?
     
  6. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter


    DON'T ! Start your own thread. Obvious intention to highjack someone's thread will be dealt with.




     
  7. Blaubart

    Blaubart Melt Value = 4.50

    That sounds like a reasonable solution. FeeBay could require sellers of clad/plated items to have one of those words immediately following the precious metal. i.e. Silver Clad or Gold Plated. Much more honest than "1 Troy Ounce .999 Pure Solid Silver WWII Bullion Wow! Look! Genuine clad No RESERVE!"

    The way the title that 19Lyds posted reads, I'm not sure if the item is silver clad, or "wheat cent clad". :rollling:

    ...and the whole "In Clad We Trust" as an indicator that it is not what it claims to be on the front? Gimme a break. Sure, it has the word "clad" in it, but borrowing from the Made in China example, what about a product that says "Made in USA" on the front, and "In China we trust" on the back? Does that mean it's OK because everyone knows that "In China we trust" means it's actually made in China?

    Or how about a package of meat that says "100% Pure Ogranic Free Range Grass Fed Beef" and on the back it says "In Horses We Trust"? :rollling: Surely nobody could ever mistake that for beef because it says "Horses" on the back.

    Also, the script "In Clad We trust" on the back of a 1 oz bar is awfully small. Much smaller than the photos shown here would lead one to believe. I'd have to wonder if these are being produced and sold to people for the purpose of taking advantage of the elderly. I know my 84 year old neighbor across the street would not be able to read it and would likely believe he's actually buying 1 ounce of silver, because to his eyes, "In Clad We Trust" looks a whole lot like "In God We Trust".
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Yes, he was honest. Does he have to say "clad" 50 time before you think he is honest? On the other hand, it only took you once to show how honest you are.

    I probably report more items on eBay than everyone else here put together. I have reported over 500 items in a single day. Many would think that I am also tilting at windmills. One major difference is that probably 99% of mine get removed and I do not even bother with stuff that merely can be misinterpreted.
     
  9. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    You got your opinion and I have mine.
     
  10. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    What does this mean?
     
  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    So you are maintaining that it was "100% honest" for you to say that he said "ONE OUNCE OF SILVER BULLION"? IMO, that is an out and out lie and I do not see how you can say otherwise.
     
  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

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    Read, read, read, understand, understand, understand.
     
  13. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    All here can read the title, I was quoting the part that stated SILVER BULLION compared to using SILVER CLAD BULLION. Maybe you can explain to the buyers that left negitive feedback your logic. All I'm saying is he could save himself some trouble (negitive feedback) by listing it as SILVER/CLAD....but he won't do that, it would hurt his sales. That first BIG pic of .999 silver,,,:D


    Don't imply that I'm dishonest again...you don't know me.
     
  14. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    Yeah, I can read clad, CLAD's on there 50 times.

    There's also a post on CT today about young collectors. Lets say a young collector logs on to Ebay and is looking for silver at a good price. He's looking and with less than 1 minute to go he finds the auction in question and BAM he bids bc all he saw was ONE OUNCE SILVER with a picture of a ONE OUNCE SILVER BAR. Sure it's his mistake for not reading the fine print... but did this MISLEADING auction help or hurt the hobby in his eyes?
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    In his entire listing, in no place does it say "ONE OUNCE OF" of anything. PERIOD! You stated unequivocally that is what he said. IN QUOTES! I do not need to know you to figure out that is a lie. You also said "Ebay should yank his auctions until he does his listings correctly." Somehow I do not connect that to "All I'm saying is he could save himself some trouble (negitive feedback) by listing it as SILVER/CLAD". Even that statement is more dishonest than the seller's listing.

    Maybe you are too young to remember this, but the old Excedrin commercials where the the person had headache number XXX. If you can remember (or find one), listen closely. In there, you will find a very interesting line. It goes (or very close to) "Excedrin has been shown to be more effective for pain, OTHER THAN HEADACHE, THAN [SOMETHING]. It worked and it worked well, but advertizing something for a headache that has not been shown to be effective? I hate to tell you this, but that is honest advertizing. Now, compared to that, you really think not using the term "SILVER/CLAD" in the title is dishonest?
     
  16. Blaubart

    Blaubart Melt Value = 4.50

    Meh - Legal? Sure. Honest? Maybe. Ethical? No.

    Yes, I remember the Excedrin commercials. I also remember the Genuine® Diamonds. They were not "Genuine" diamonds, they were "Genuine®" Diamonds. I'd hate to think of how many people they conned with that legal (at the time) scam.
     
  17. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    Would you please type below the first five words in item description ONLY.
    Just need the first 5 words now.........
     
  18. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    1 Troy Ounce SILVER BULLION INDIAN HEAD WHEAT CENT CLAD ART BAR 1 of 999-P#1022A

    That's the title from the ad. It does say CLAD ;)
     
  19. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE


    I've heard of Silver/Clad, haven't you?
    Never heard of Wheat Cent Clad, have you?....;)
     
  20. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I've heard of CLAD ART BAR, how about you?
     
  21. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    Yeah, probably. Just ain't got much use for clad.
     
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