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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4276295, member: 110504"]Just found two old, self-taken, correspingly lousy .jpgs of my example.[ATTACH=full]1088319[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1088320[/ATTACH] </p><p>Is this one that much better than Seth's? You decide.</p><p>Except, Seth's comments about the couchant "S" are as evocative as they are on point.</p><p>From what I've seen, this variation in the lettering shows up most conspicuously in the coins of Richard I, Couer de Lion, variously from Bordeaux, as Duke of Aquitaine, and Poitiers, to the north, as count of Poitou. There's at least some precedent from the county of Toulouse, earlier in the 12th c. </p><p>Richard's upbringing leaned more to the south, thanks to his mother, Eleanor of Aquitaine. He was probably literate both in Provencal and Occitan. Fast forward a little, and you get this same feature in issues of the neighboring county of Toulouse and marquisate of Provence, as late as the mid 13th century.</p><p>Looking at the operant geography, it's easy to imagine the progression of the the S couchee having migrated to the north and east, conspicuously including Berry, maybe starting with the issues of Richard I from Poitou.</p><p>Anyway, thanks, Seth, for this post ...and for sticking a finger in my eye until I found the pics of my example.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4276295, member: 110504"]Just found two old, self-taken, correspingly lousy .jpgs of my example.[ATTACH=full]1088319[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1088320[/ATTACH] Is this one that much better than Seth's? You decide. Except, Seth's comments about the couchant "S" are as evocative as they are on point. From what I've seen, this variation in the lettering shows up most conspicuously in the coins of Richard I, Couer de Lion, variously from Bordeaux, as Duke of Aquitaine, and Poitiers, to the north, as count of Poitou. There's at least some precedent from the county of Toulouse, earlier in the 12th c. Richard's upbringing leaned more to the south, thanks to his mother, Eleanor of Aquitaine. He was probably literate both in Provencal and Occitan. Fast forward a little, and you get this same feature in issues of the neighboring county of Toulouse and marquisate of Provence, as late as the mid 13th century. Looking at the operant geography, it's easy to imagine the progression of the the S couchee having migrated to the north and east, conspicuously including Berry, maybe starting with the issues of Richard I from Poitou. Anyway, thanks, Seth, for this post ...and for sticking a finger in my eye until I found the pics of my example.[/QUOTE]
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