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<p>[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 4316157, member: 93371"]I have posted a number of recent struck counterfeits, mostly early copper in this forum. Today's subject is based on the reverse of the 1826 C-1 and a still researched obverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>One of the recent examples for sale on the "Bay" is this bad "1810" half cent. Not only did the seller have this 1810 but a couple of others with the same overall appearance; unfortunately, I didn't save images of the group prior to the listings being removed but did some screen shots of the listings.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097395[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097396[/ATTACH] </p><p>One of the 1st things to stand out is the apparent strange date; upon further review the head style is incorrect for the date and is typical of the style of 1833-1835. The obverse certainly doesn't match an 1810 C-1 (the only variety for the year). I have noted (in red) a couple of interesting marks on the subject coin (hold that thought!)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097398[/ATTACH] </p><p>And the reverse is certainly wrong for the date but it loosely matches an 1826 C-1; the obverse certainly doesn't match any better to a genuine 1826. I have indicated (in green) some die markers for a genuine C-1 reverse; the die mark at "D" is a match on the subject coin but the "Zipper" marks (in red) are unique to it and not seen on the genuine reverse.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097399[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097400[/ATTACH] </p><p>As in the other "family" groups previously discussed and documented there must be more! And another Bay example is documented, this one dated 1809.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097401[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097402[/ATTACH] </p><p>Images aren't great for several of these but they are clear enough to make out the main attribution marks.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 2nd 1810 matches the 1st including a "scratch" from the 2nd "1" in the date.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097403[/ATTACH] </p><p>The 1811 is also a match, as well as the 1828 and 1829!</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097405[/ATTACH] </p><p>Continuing the search for more examples and a possible obverse parent lead to these 2 “1835’s”, one from Ali, the other from the Bay.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1097407[/ATTACH] </p><p>I have overrun my image count so will finish with a response![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 4316157, member: 93371"]I have posted a number of recent struck counterfeits, mostly early copper in this forum. Today's subject is based on the reverse of the 1826 C-1 and a still researched obverse. One of the recent examples for sale on the "Bay" is this bad "1810" half cent. Not only did the seller have this 1810 but a couple of others with the same overall appearance; unfortunately, I didn't save images of the group prior to the listings being removed but did some screen shots of the listings. [ATTACH=full]1097395[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1097396[/ATTACH] One of the 1st things to stand out is the apparent strange date; upon further review the head style is incorrect for the date and is typical of the style of 1833-1835. The obverse certainly doesn't match an 1810 C-1 (the only variety for the year). I have noted (in red) a couple of interesting marks on the subject coin (hold that thought!) [ATTACH=full]1097398[/ATTACH] And the reverse is certainly wrong for the date but it loosely matches an 1826 C-1; the obverse certainly doesn't match any better to a genuine 1826. I have indicated (in green) some die markers for a genuine C-1 reverse; the die mark at "D" is a match on the subject coin but the "Zipper" marks (in red) are unique to it and not seen on the genuine reverse. [ATTACH=full]1097399[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1097400[/ATTACH] As in the other "family" groups previously discussed and documented there must be more! And another Bay example is documented, this one dated 1809. [ATTACH=full]1097401[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1097402[/ATTACH] Images aren't great for several of these but they are clear enough to make out the main attribution marks. The 2nd 1810 matches the 1st including a "scratch" from the 2nd "1" in the date. [ATTACH=full]1097403[/ATTACH] The 1811 is also a match, as well as the 1828 and 1829! [ATTACH=full]1097405[/ATTACH] Continuing the search for more examples and a possible obverse parent lead to these 2 “1835’s”, one from Ali, the other from the Bay. [ATTACH=full]1097407[/ATTACH] I have overrun my image count so will finish with a response![/QUOTE]
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