Another Family of Counterfeits- 1818 B-10 Source

The 1818 B-10 capped bust quarter is another of the varieties picked by the counterfeiters to spawn a family of fakes.

The 1st image is of a genuine example courtesy PCGS; the die scratch from the 2nd star aids in identifying this obverse.


The next images are of a genuine example and a Chinese counterfeit (guess which one is which?); I highlighted some "dings" and marks on the reverse that are clues going forward (images courtesy TypeCoin971793)!



From there the counterfeiters made an accurate die and created another "family of fakes" adding different dates to the obverse dies (and some matching reverse marks).



And today I found my 1st "1825" example on the "Bay"; listing was removed after being reported. Seller did mark "COPY" on the reverse but is still against listing policy there.


I can't look at a B-10 the same going forward!

Best, Jack.

 

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Ouch

 

@Jack D. Young Your posts are always very informative.

 

Thanks for your post, Jack. I am starting to collect busted half (have 3 slabbed pieces), and it's good to know what counterfeit types are out there.

 

Thanks for a previous post by TypeCoin971793 there is an 1823 version to add to the family...

 

Very good post! I am thankful that this is all the better the counterfeiters have managed to produce so far (at least that we know of), because if you are very familiar with the series, you can pick these out almost instantly. As you mentioned, that spike on star 2 only appears on 1818 B-8, B-9, and B-10, so if that spike appears on any other date, it’s a fake. They also failed to use correct numerals in the date, which seems par for the course for this type of fake.

 

Thanks for the note NSP; I still think it takes one well versed in the series to pick these out. New collectors may not pick them up as readily as experienced collectors. I consider these and the other "family" counterfeits (1804 "C-6 half cent" and 1833 "N-5 large cent" included) a middle level of deceptive fakes but we know there is a higher level out there that also test experts.

 

Something else to watch for will be the counterfeit rev paired with an obverse NOT made from the 18 B-10 hub. I don't know if they exist but it is possible.

 

Thanks for posting. Yet another scary one to watch for

 

Thanks for another great post Jack. People like you are helping save this hobby.

 

Thanks for all of the responses to this post!

Best, Jack.

 

Great work Jack! Thanks

 

I say we boycott ALL Chinese products completely. They constantly steal our jobs, products, and technology then make cheap replicas and sell them back to us as originals! I bet 90% of the stuff in the average American home says "made in China" somewhere on it. Our coinage is a huge part of our heritage and pride and these Chinese fakes makes me want to burn that country to the ground

 

Calm down

 

Whats your opinion on Chinese food

 

Thank you- just trying to get the word out as we document these.

 

In a restaurant, great. As groceries, I avoid it...although I often buy Vietnamese and Turkish made foodstuffs