Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by RedRaider, Jan 2, 2012.
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1) The Ns on the reverse are too strongly struck
2) The second seven in the date looks strange (larger than the first/reflecting light differently)
3) I am hesitant to buy anything remotely resembling a key date without it being slabbed.
While these three things by no means guarantee that it is a counterfeit - I find it suspicious.
We're here to learn. Tell me why it's fake, and I'll report it if I agree.
With the 1877 Indian Head cent, the most important diagnostic feature appears on the reverse. On a genuine coin, the bottom right of the N in ONE and the top left of the N in CENT should be much weaker than the rest of the denomination. The only set of dies used on mint state coins issued for general circulation in 1877 has this distinct characteristic. Proof 1877 Indian Head cents were struck from dies with strong lettering in these same areas. [from http://www.pcgs.com/Articles/Detail/5552]. So, unless you can say this is a proof 1877, the fact that the N's in One and Cent on the reverse being strong should preclude this from being a real 1877 issue.
Proof cents were struck with a bold "N" on the reverse, but this is not a proof cent. Good answers Iskae and Kasia
and here is Ebay's guide on Counterfeit IHC's
If indeed this is a fake, and I have no reason to doubt Red's assessment, I might have been taken in if in the market for one. Except for one or two caveats.
The fact that this is a very highly priced example and date I would immediately be suspicious that it was not slabbed. And I would want it so if I were to be in the serious market for one unless I knew personally the seller or better yet the series.
This is a good point. Any key date / expensive coin that is not slabbed should send up a red flag. It's just not that expensive to get one certified if legitimate.
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Do more research on the seller. My conclusion is he buys a lot of questionable coins and sells a lot of raw shiny coins. Just my own humble opinion.
And the seller has responded it is a proof. Take it for what it is.
When investigating sellers - check what they sell and what they buy if possible. Also read both the positive and negative feedback. Sometimes the negatives are not that bad and sometimes in the positive feed back that says negative things. Just something I do with a new seller I might buy from. Just something to think about.
Once again the nannies have succeeded and we can't join in and learn about the coin that was listed or anything else about the seller for that matter.
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