Another EBay splurge

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bruthajoe, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Seen it. Liked it. Bid it. Won it. Here it is. $40

    TONED 1967- P KENNEDY HALF DOLLAR
    40% silver

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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Do you think it is NT or AT?
     
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  4. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I think it's artificial
     
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  5. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

  6. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Looks baked without sulfur.
     
  7. Penny Luster

    Penny Luster Well-Known Member

    Looks like a sunburn.
     
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  8. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Well I believe it meets at least 3 criteria for being natural.
    1. It has gradient color shifts
    2. Toning is translucent and does not mask luster.
    3. The coin contains silver
    There are the negatives now.
    1. It is saturated
    2. It's only 40% silver
    3. I bought it on Ebay
    I would never say any toning was "natural" being it requires some sort of exposure to a specific environment to achieve. Was it created artificially?
    My observations are...
    There are areas in the fields that show natural dark tarnish. There are areas on the coin where toning has been removed by mishandling or simply had no reaction. There is a define line of separation in the toning around the whole edge of the rim which means it could not have been fully submerged in a chemical. There are random green tarnish spots throughout. (Images below).
    I believe some of these features would be too difficult to achieve to make it worth while to anyone. The seller seems to be exclusively into Kennedys with a variety of toned coins from very subtle to monster ungodly toning.
    If I hadn't already read the other members comments I would have said, I believe this is not artificial. I am bias now based on the criticism and am interested to know why this coin appears AT. 201013_105738.jpg 201013_110007.jpg 201013_070102.jpg 201013_105451.jpg 201013_110919.jpg
     
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  9. cpm9ball

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    I am not one to say whether it is or isn't NT. That is why I asked you for your opinion. But hey, if you are happy with it, that is all that matters.
     
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  10. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    I never said I was happy with it. And, I always welcome your feedback Mr. Chris. I enjoy your frigid, tempered honesty!!!
     
  11. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    As stated many time on CT "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." In my eyes it's a keeper. Best of luck to you.
     
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  12. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    It's your money and now your coin - enjoy!
     
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  13. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    10% of 90% silver coins -are- junk.
     
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  14. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    Somewhat agree - I buy circulated silver dimes, quarters and halves in bulk bags - I've found that approx 5% (+ -) of the coins are not collectible (bent, slick and gouged) - I toss those into a separate jar and sell them as scrap silver - I stack the rest and wait for the silver spot price to rise from $14-$18 to $24 ;)
     
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  15. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    I just meant there made with 90% silver and 10% junk.:rolleyes:
     
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  16. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    That's why I prefer the 90% silver and .925 sterling items - more good stuff , less 'junk' - war nickels and 40% JFKs have more copper than silver, so dealers don't pay full value for those ;)
     
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  17. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Nor should they. I have a junk silver bag. I was thinking about smelting it and trying to make a bar, but I'll have to buy a crucible and tongs and I would want it purified which gets complicated. I have been told a jeweler would do it but I have not inquired.
     
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  18. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    Outer layers are 80% silver, like old Canadian silver.
    Never saw that kind of NT on 80% silver
     
  19. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    You mean 40%?
     
  20. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Talking about "junk silver" . . . . . .

    When I was a kid (early 1960's) my Dad bought two silver balls from a jeweler. These are supposedly the jewlers "melt." This was in a small town in Wisconsin, away from the "big city."

    It would have been right around the time they discontinued silver coinage. Dad passed about 11 years ago, so I cannot discern any additional history on these. I am thinking this jeweler may have feared the prohibition of ownership of silver similar to what the Government did back in the 1930's with gold. I have no idea if this is .999, .925, or coin silver, although I suspect the latter.

    Any idea what I could do with these? Each weighs in at around 650 grams.

    Z



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  21. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    No Joe. OUTER layers are EIGHTY% silver. Overall coin is 40%
     
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