Another Dubious Drachm: Oreo Cookie Coin?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Macromius, Jan 22, 2018.

  1. Macromius

    Macromius Well-Known Member

    I just received another VCoins Egyptian Drachm with questionable edges that were not mentioned the original description. There is an irregular crack around almost the entire circumference of the coin filled with some unidentifiable white substance like an Oreo cookie. Has anyone seen anything like this before?

    I'm really starting to lose heart, and I think it might be time to curtail my coin collecting. This is the third Egyptian drachm in a row that I have bought from Vcoins with serious undescribed issues.

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    Last edited: Jan 22, 2018
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  3. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    It almost looks like the coin is corroding internally but mostly not showing external signs(though there are a few spots that appear to be corrosion poking its head through on the reverse). I've heard about but fortunately not personally experienced such a scenario yet.
     
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  4. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

    Don't give up, @Macromius ! I agree that those issues with the coin are too substantial to have been omitted from the description.
     
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  5. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    That definitely should have been disclosed. Can you send it back?
     
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  6. Macromius

    Macromius Well-Known Member

    Thanks Deacon Ray...
    Yeah Jay, I'm definitely sending it back. I guess I have to make sure to ask about the edges since most sellers are too lazy to describe or photograph them. Vcoins should really institute a feedback system. It's getting to be a joke!
     
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  7. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    That's good. A few times I've asked for additional pictures just to be sure or at least asked some questions. I've rarely bought a coin with out making inquiry first.

    One coin I bought looked like it was holed but it was just a strange lighting effect. I picked it up cheap because everyone assumed it was pierced and didn't bother to ask. It was in his inventory forever so he gave me a deal.
     
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  8. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I'd send it back, that issue should have been disclosed by the seller.
     
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  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I've seen that before. Here's a similar Roman Egypt coin I returned upon receipt. This type of perimeter crack isn't appreciable in obverse and reverse shots. The auction house (Naville) accepted the return, of course. They covered return shipping too.
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    Your Hadrian drachm doesn't look too bad, but it's hard to tell what might lurk in the coin's interior. Best to return it.
     
  10. Macromius

    Macromius Well-Known Member

    Well that certainly settles it. Thanks TIF...and thanks for photos. That coin has way more creamy filling than mine.
     
  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Yeah, mine was the new Mint Oreo flavor :yack:.

    It looked on the verge of becoming two uniface coins!
     
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  12. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    These flans were cast right?
     
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  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Right.
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Great, now I want an ancient and an Oreo.
     
  15. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Here's a Bosporeo for ya :D

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    KINGS OF BOSPORUS, Sauromates I
    CE 93/4-123/4
    AE 48 units (29mm, 10.84 gm, 12h)
    Obv: diademed, draped bust of Sauromates left
    Rev: Nike advancing left, holding wreath, flanked by mark of value M-H, all within wreath
    Ref: MacDonald 397/2

    And some time ago I made this "coin" instead of tending to adult responsibilities. It's tooled (like my Sauromates I, apparently :( )

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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I agree. Send it back.
     
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  17. Macromius

    Macromius Well-Known Member

    Hey, thanks folks for the advice and for making a depressing post funny! I needed a smile.
     
  18. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    +1
     
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  19. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    the coins legit(authentic) i think, but yeah that's a real surprise upon receiving i'm sure.. i recently was looking at a coin and requested pics of the edge before bidding on it just because of my Missouri nature..send it back if you're not happy.
     
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  20. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..that 1st & last coin does lQQk yummy! :)
     
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  21. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    Yes, but in open molds, not two-piece, closed molds. Thus, there are no casting seams on Alexandrian bronzes. The open molds are why the bronzes have that characteristic conical shape (wider on one side than the other, sloping edges). The molds were narrower at the bottom so that the hardened flans would pop-out easier - like a cupcake pan. The OP coin is not showing a casting seam, it is a flan/patina crack.
     
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