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<p>[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 2245226, member: 4781"]Do you have a legal ruling or legal precedent to that effect that you can cite ?</p><p>Show us the established criteria which defines the threshold at which defacement of a coin nullifies the coin's legal tender status. Is a carved "hobo" nickel still legal tender or is it counterfeit ? What about a 1944-D Lincoln cent with parts of the 4 carved off to make it look like a "1914-D" ? It is certainly a "faked" 1914-D cent, but is it still legal tender ? Or how about an early US Bust coin with a significant amount of re-engraving on it to make it appear to have stronger details ? This was a fairly common practice in earlier days of collecting. Is such a coin still legal tender ?</p><p><br /></p><p>To my knowledge, there is no legal precedent which indicates that such a things are not legal tender.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The GBI case which you cited above actually bolsters my position. The judge determined that producing a coin with a date that was never originally issued for that design type did NOT violate the Hobby Protection Act (HPA). GBI was found to be at fault for violating Section 18 counterfeiting statutes, not the HPA statutes.</p><p>There is no violation of Section 18 in my situation because there is no legal statute which indicates over-striking of existing coins is a problem in of itself (so long as it is not done for fraudulent purposes).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 2245226, member: 4781"]Do you have a legal ruling or legal precedent to that effect that you can cite ? Show us the established criteria which defines the threshold at which defacement of a coin nullifies the coin's legal tender status. Is a carved "hobo" nickel still legal tender or is it counterfeit ? What about a 1944-D Lincoln cent with parts of the 4 carved off to make it look like a "1914-D" ? It is certainly a "faked" 1914-D cent, but is it still legal tender ? Or how about an early US Bust coin with a significant amount of re-engraving on it to make it appear to have stronger details ? This was a fairly common practice in earlier days of collecting. Is such a coin still legal tender ? To my knowledge, there is no legal precedent which indicates that such a things are not legal tender. The GBI case which you cited above actually bolsters my position. The judge determined that producing a coin with a date that was never originally issued for that design type did NOT violate the Hobby Protection Act (HPA). GBI was found to be at fault for violating Section 18 counterfeiting statutes, not the HPA statutes. There is no violation of Section 18 in my situation because there is no legal statute which indicates over-striking of existing coins is a problem in of itself (so long as it is not done for fraudulent purposes).[/QUOTE]
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