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<p>[QUOTE="cwtokenman, post: 629432, member: 2100"]I agree with 900fine's id with the addition of the state initials NY890B-1b, but I suspect he hit it by a stroke of luck. From the pricing info, I believe he used Rulau's Standard Catalog of United States Tokens to make his id. Rulau only lists the single most common variety of token for each Civil War merchant. Oliver Boutwell tokens were made using 20 different obverse dies and 23 different reverse dies, and many of those had multiple pairings. It just so happened that Frank's token was produced by the same die pair as the only one listed in Rulau's Catalog. It was made with obverse die O-1 and reverse die R-1. Kanzinger lists values in his 2002 ref. as $12 in F/VF, $15 in XF and $20 in Unc.</p><p><br /></p><p>All of the obverse and all but two of the reverse dies for this merchant are nearly identicle. For instance, the first token green18 linked to was made with obverse die O-5. This die is easily distinguished as only dies O-5 and O-6 do not have stars by "TROY NY". The reverse die is R-21, one of the two that are very different from the others. </p><p><br /></p><p>The second token linked to was made with obverse die O-3 and reverse die R-4. While neither die usage matched that of the token in the OP, there was agreement on it being the same token. The is a good demonstration as to why the close similarity and number of dies used make this merchant's tokens make them (IMO) the most commonly mis-identified of all cwts. The tpgs do not do a good job of identification either, but then, I still don't think they've taken the time to read the book.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW, it looks like there is some die crack action going on by the merchant's name on the obverse. Nearly all of the examples that I have seen of obverse die O-1 have a die chip that connects the scrollwork to the "R" in MILLER, but since yours does not, it must be a relatively early die state.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cwtokenman, post: 629432, member: 2100"]I agree with 900fine's id with the addition of the state initials NY890B-1b, but I suspect he hit it by a stroke of luck. From the pricing info, I believe he used Rulau's Standard Catalog of United States Tokens to make his id. Rulau only lists the single most common variety of token for each Civil War merchant. Oliver Boutwell tokens were made using 20 different obverse dies and 23 different reverse dies, and many of those had multiple pairings. It just so happened that Frank's token was produced by the same die pair as the only one listed in Rulau's Catalog. It was made with obverse die O-1 and reverse die R-1. Kanzinger lists values in his 2002 ref. as $12 in F/VF, $15 in XF and $20 in Unc. All of the obverse and all but two of the reverse dies for this merchant are nearly identicle. For instance, the first token green18 linked to was made with obverse die O-5. This die is easily distinguished as only dies O-5 and O-6 do not have stars by "TROY NY". The reverse die is R-21, one of the two that are very different from the others. The second token linked to was made with obverse die O-3 and reverse die R-4. While neither die usage matched that of the token in the OP, there was agreement on it being the same token. The is a good demonstration as to why the close similarity and number of dies used make this merchant's tokens make them (IMO) the most commonly mis-identified of all cwts. The tpgs do not do a good job of identification either, but then, I still don't think they've taken the time to read the book. BTW, it looks like there is some die crack action going on by the merchant's name on the obverse. Nearly all of the examples that I have seen of obverse die O-1 have a die chip that connects the scrollwork to the "R" in MILLER, but since yours does not, it must be a relatively early die state.[/QUOTE]
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