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<p>[QUOTE="CircCam, post: 7302410, member: 85675"]Man, the spirit of what you suggest is good, but the execution of an all-encompassing system for tens of millions of collectible coins will never happen. It would require strict buy-in from all parties to every single transaction with loopholes all over the place, too many to count, but here’s a few: Take a white MS66 Washington quarter out of its holder and try to “track it.” They all look more or less the same. Fingerprinting tech? You wouldn’t find any fingerprints on a raw coin unless it was being mishandled. Coins change ownership over and over over the course of one coin show- do you really think every dealer is going to take out his cell phone and check the database every single time? Noble of an idea as it may be, it just won’t happen, so no one is going to invest in building the infrastructure for a fundamentally flawed system.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think a more realistic solution would be to integrate a database the Numismatic Crime Information Center uses with the TPG apps so that if you scanned a stolen coin or looked up the cert, it would put up a flag that the coin was reported stolen. As someone mentioned, the check there would be making sure that only coins verified stolen with a police report would enter that system (Again, someone has to pay for the administrative burden to do the back-end work even on a much smaller scale like this idea.) but at the very least if you’re viewing coins on eBay or at auction, it could yield progress.</p><p><br /></p><p>Problem is, before TPG’s would agree to do that they would need to be absolutely certain that the data of a third-party organization (NCIC) was rock solid, and determine if implementing that could result in lawsuits for them if errors ruined a big sale of a legitimate item or something. (Which means more project teams being created, more employees, more $$$ spent, more risk...etc.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Bottom-line: A very complex problem given the absolutely massive scale of a zillion collectible coins floating around out there, but definitely still room for growth and progress.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="CircCam, post: 7302410, member: 85675"]Man, the spirit of what you suggest is good, but the execution of an all-encompassing system for tens of millions of collectible coins will never happen. It would require strict buy-in from all parties to every single transaction with loopholes all over the place, too many to count, but here’s a few: Take a white MS66 Washington quarter out of its holder and try to “track it.” They all look more or less the same. Fingerprinting tech? You wouldn’t find any fingerprints on a raw coin unless it was being mishandled. Coins change ownership over and over over the course of one coin show- do you really think every dealer is going to take out his cell phone and check the database every single time? Noble of an idea as it may be, it just won’t happen, so no one is going to invest in building the infrastructure for a fundamentally flawed system. I think a more realistic solution would be to integrate a database the Numismatic Crime Information Center uses with the TPG apps so that if you scanned a stolen coin or looked up the cert, it would put up a flag that the coin was reported stolen. As someone mentioned, the check there would be making sure that only coins verified stolen with a police report would enter that system (Again, someone has to pay for the administrative burden to do the back-end work even on a much smaller scale like this idea.) but at the very least if you’re viewing coins on eBay or at auction, it could yield progress. Problem is, before TPG’s would agree to do that they would need to be absolutely certain that the data of a third-party organization (NCIC) was rock solid, and determine if implementing that could result in lawsuits for them if errors ruined a big sale of a legitimate item or something. (Which means more project teams being created, more employees, more $$$ spent, more risk...etc.) Bottom-line: A very complex problem given the absolutely massive scale of a zillion collectible coins floating around out there, but definitely still room for growth and progress.[/QUOTE]
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