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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1956070, member: 112&quot;]It is quite true that luster can be subdued by toning, it can even be covered up by toning. But the only things that remove luster are wear, harsh cleaning, and very advanced, or terminal toning. Even some coins that have toned black, if properly dipped, will readily show the luster that remains under that black toning.</p><p><br /></p><p>But this coin is far from having terminal toning. And the grey toning that it does have is not enough to cover up the luster that should be there for it to grade AU. This coin has wear, loss of detail, and loss of luster. Some of the obvious places that show this wear, this loss of detail, is the fur around the bear&#039;s head and the ships on the reverse. And there are other clues, this coin has accumulated dirt and grime that is only accumulated during circulation. It can be seen in several places on the rev and in the obv fields.</p><p><br /></p><p>As an example of what I am talking about here are pictures of an example of this commem that has been toned black, then dipped, and then submitted to NGC and graded AU58. Now I don&#039;t necessarily agree with the 58 grade, but I do agree the coin is AU. But look at the luster that remains, look at the detail that remains. Then look at your coin. You should readily see the difference.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F4%2F4%2F8%2F11448918%5D&amp;call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F4%2F4%2F8%2F11448919%5D&amp;call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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