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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1955484, member: 112&quot;]If one spends some time looking at coins in Details/Genuine slabs on Heritage you will find many, many, coins designated as harshly cleaned, but when you look at them, you can&#039;t see any sign of it. So you&#039;ll sit there and scratch your head and say - why ?</p><p><br /></p><p>About the only answer I can give you is that sometimes a harshly cleaned coin just has a certain look to it when viewed in pictures. You often <u>will not</u> see fine hairlines or scratches on the coin, and as a general rule that&#039;s what people always look for. So when they don&#039;t see them, they naturally don&#039;t think the coin has been harshly cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p>But there is another look that harshly cleaned coins have too, and this coin exhibits that look. I don&#039;t know any other way to describe it other than to say that coin kind of has a, what I think of anyway, rubbed look. And this is not something you will recognize right away, especially not from pictures. In hand it is somewhat easier to see, but even then it requires a certain level of experience.</p><p><br /></p><p>So I would say that yes, this coin has been harshly cleaned. But other than as a learning experience the point is moot for as others have said the coin is definitely ungradeable because of the rim damage.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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