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<p>[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 8535030, member: 93371"]I have written several articles about “families” of counterfeits where the obverse die is from a known variety with different dates and the reverse a known variety as well. Initially the source coin variety could be identified and many times the actual coin found through common markers.</p><p><br /></p><p>From there the counterfeits seen have progressed to examples with the same obverse “variety” but a different but still identifiable reverse…</p><p><br /></p><p>In the case of half cents one of my articles documented a family of middle date fakes: <a href="https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/struck-counterfeit-coins-another-all-in-the-family-half-cent-1835-1826/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/struck-counterfeit-coins-another-all-in-the-family-half-cent-1835-1826/" rel="nofollow">https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/struck-counterfeit-coins-another-all-in-the-family-half-cent-1835-1826/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>These were based on an 1835 obverse and an 1826 C-1 reverse and readily identifiable as fake.</p><p><br /></p><p>This latest example appears to be an 1828 C-1 obverse from the star positions. The reverse looks to be from an 1835 C-2, possibly. Comparing this to the known varieties for the date results in no obverse match (only one obverse for the date):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1507973[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1507974[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1507975[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The counterfeiters continue to switch things up, making it harder to label a group as fake; again in my opinion taking the time to attribute an example before you pull the “buy” trigger is always the safest 1st step!</p><p><br /></p><p>EDIT: I added a reverse comparison to an 1835 C-2:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1507977[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Are these deceptive? I call them intermediate counterfeits and certainly deceptive to some; this one had 17 bids at 2 hours left before being removed…</p><p><br /></p><p>Best, Jack.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 8535030, member: 93371"]I have written several articles about “families” of counterfeits where the obverse die is from a known variety with different dates and the reverse a known variety as well. Initially the source coin variety could be identified and many times the actual coin found through common markers. From there the counterfeits seen have progressed to examples with the same obverse “variety” but a different but still identifiable reverse… In the case of half cents one of my articles documented a family of middle date fakes: [URL]https://coinweek.com/counterfeits/struck-counterfeit-coins-another-all-in-the-family-half-cent-1835-1826/[/URL] These were based on an 1835 obverse and an 1826 C-1 reverse and readily identifiable as fake. This latest example appears to be an 1828 C-1 obverse from the star positions. The reverse looks to be from an 1835 C-2, possibly. Comparing this to the known varieties for the date results in no obverse match (only one obverse for the date): [ATTACH=full]1507973[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1507974[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1507975[/ATTACH] The counterfeiters continue to switch things up, making it harder to label a group as fake; again in my opinion taking the time to attribute an example before you pull the “buy” trigger is always the safest 1st step! EDIT: I added a reverse comparison to an 1835 C-2: [ATTACH=full]1507977[/ATTACH] Are these deceptive? I call them intermediate counterfeits and certainly deceptive to some; this one had 17 bids at 2 hours left before being removed… Best, Jack.[/QUOTE]
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