Another ancient deal walked up. Need ID help

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by C-B-D, Sep 23, 2022.

  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Save me! How is it possible to have two back to back ancient deals walk up when I never buy ancients?!? Help attribute?

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  3. The Meat man

    The Meat man Well-Known Member

    Almost looks like a casting seam on that second coin...do you have a better edge photo?
     
  4. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    Not an expert in any of these coins, but the style looks off on the second coin, which should be a Corinthian style stater, and I agree with @The Meat man, it looks like there is a casting seam. Usually if there's one fake in the pack, the others will be suspect as well.

    #3 would also be a Corinthian style stater and #4 and #5 are Roman Republican denarii.

    #2 is stater of Bruttium Lokroi Epizephyrioi, Circa 350-275 BC. Pegasos flying to left / Head of Athena to left, wearing Corinthian helmet; ΛOKPΩN around. Pegasi 10; HN Italy 2341; HGC 1, -. 8.58g, 21mm, 8h. Style is off, should look like this one, which sold for 420 GBP in June: https://www.coinarchives.com/a/lotv...0&Lot=64&Val=a33b241b26eb7642818e8466ae590224

    #5 is P. Accoleius Lariscolus (43 BC) denarius. Obv. bust of Diana Nemorensis. R, Triple cult statue of Diana Nemorensis.
     
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  5. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I dropped them off in the vault for the weekend. Can get better pics Monday. Thanks for the help!
     
  6. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    The first one also looks off. It should be a tetradrachm from Antioch under Roman administration with the portrait of Philip I Epiphanes Philadelphus. The monogram at inner left should be AYT but it doesn't look like it, can't see a monogram below the throne and the legend letters also seem off to me...
     
  7. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    I'm not very good in English and I didn't understand which was your problem...
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I just heard from someone I consider to be an expert say that both appear struck, not cast. But that’s all he’s said so far. A couple other folks just say that the first two are “too good to be true.”
     
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  9. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I wish you luck
     
  10. RichardT

    RichardT Well-Known Member

    I do not have the time today to look further, but all of these look like pressed fakes.

    Meaning they were pressed with modern equipment and dies instead of being hand struck.

    The fields look wrong and there are tiny breaks on the edges that remind me strongly of pressed fakes.

    The style of many of these coins is subtly wrong. They do not look good at all, to me. My 2 cents.
     
  11. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I agree. Bad voodoo
     
  12. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    Just to clarify an earlier comment, fake coins can be struck, cast or "pressed", as @RichardT mentioned. So just because they aren't cast doesn't mean they can't be fake. That's why it's important to compare style against genuine coins as well as many other more subtle features that I won't get into here. Usually if it's too good to be true, it usually is...
     
  13. Kentucky

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  14. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    The better pictures definitely help. Now I'm not so sure they are fake anymore. Best of luck, and hope they are indeed authentic in the end!
     
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