ANOTHER 1972 DDO

Discussion in 'Coin Roll Hunting' started by JakeTheBarber401, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. JakeTheBarber401

    JakeTheBarber401 Active Member

    Not #1 but still another neat find other 3 are in better condition IMG_20170224_232009_213.jpg IMG_20170224_230456_517.jpg IMG_20170224_230638_862.jpg IMG_20170224_230339_404.jpg IMG_20170224_230216_618.jpg
     
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  3. JakeTheBarber401

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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Which is it? Have you searched it yet?
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    nope, I don't have the reference
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Appears to be MDD, especially in photo #2 from top.
     
  9. JakeTheBarber401

    JakeTheBarber401 Active Member

    There are notches especially in the I in the word "in"
     
  10. JakeTheBarber401

    JakeTheBarber401 Active Member

    Looks like 3 or 6 to me im not too sure
     
  11. JakeTheBarber401

    JakeTheBarber401 Active Member

    Found this 1971 ddo #1 yesterday as well and I lost the 1972 ddo before i could put it in a flip i am so upset but at least i found this gem IMG_20170225_115304_976.jpg IMG_20170225_115340_562.jpg IMG_20170225_115020.jpg IMG_20170225_115027.jpg
     
  12. JakeTheBarber401

    JakeTheBarber401 Active Member

  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The 71' dosent fit into this thread, they may be two different styles of doubling. I am deffering to @desertgem .
     
  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    It's just an opinion based on photos. Few classic DDO can be done so except the biggies. 55/55(1), 72/72(1). 36/36(1),60/60, sm/lg, DDO, WRPM, etc. Actually, It seems many people can't do 69-S DDO(1) as on ebay.

    Until 3-D photos and screens are common, they are too flat. Under a binoc scope, you can see the height and surface of the coin. Maybe these on the 72 are more rounded than I see them as flattened. The "L" and "I" in liberty on the 71 is rounded, so no doubt for me there.
     
  15. JakeTheBarber401

    JakeTheBarber401 Active Member

    Sorry about that
     
  16. JakeTheBarber401

    JakeTheBarber401 Active Member

    So are u saying these arent ddos? Im confused with your comment
     
  17. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    No , I was just saying that mainly only the widely separated DD, such as the ones mentioned, can be seen as such by the average photo, such as cell phone, etc. that are usually posted on the forum or ebay. Now some members do take photos expertly , and with good magnification, so they would be the exception.

    When looking straight at a coin photo, you are seeing a flat image, so it is difficult to tell if the secondary 'doubling' is flat or if it is raised also like the primary image. It may not be the same height, but it will be raised a little if it is a DD. When you look at the coin in hand with a loupe, you can tilt the coin as you observe it and see if the secondary image is flat or at least somewhat raised.

    I saw the images on the 72 coin you showed as flat rather than as raised, unlike the 1971 coin previously where it was definitely raised.

    The comments only apply to the classic hubbing and not in my opinion to the newer single squeeze 'DD'. Jim
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    No , I was just saying that mainly only the widely separated DD, such as the ones mentioned, can be seen as such by the average photo, such as cell phone, etc. that are usually posted on the forum or ebay. Now some members do take photos expertly , and with good magnification, so they would be the exception.

    When looking straight at a coin photo, you are seeing a flat image, so it is difficult to tell if the secondary 'doubling' is flat or if it is raised also like the primary image. It may not be the same height, but it will be raised a little if it is a DD. When you look at the coin in hand with a loupe, you can tilt the coin as you observe it and see if the secondary image is flat or at least somewhat raised.

    I saw the images on the 72 coin you showed as flat rather than as raised, unlike the 1971 coin previously where it was definitely raised.

    The comments only apply to the classic hubbing and not in my opinion to the newer single squeeze 'DD'. Jim
     
  19. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    1972
    MDO-001

    Designation:

    MD-1-O-I-CW+II-C (P, D, S, PR)

    Description:

    Light spread on LIBERTY, IN GOD WE TRUST and 2 of date

    Grade:

    MS63

    Population:

    1

    Markers:



    This doubling is now considered to be engraving doubling rather than master die doubling.

    Formerly listed as MD-5-O-I-CW+II-C
    UVC-2282

    DMR-001

    MS

    Reported by:

    Gerald Landry

    This is from the Coneca Master Listings.
    @Johndoe2000$ I was probably Pickin when I said that.
    The two different types of doubling are very relevant.
     
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