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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2848107, member: 19463"]Anonymous folles are among the most incorrectly priced coins in the market. We know on all coins that condition is everything. When we have a facing bust as on these coins and extremely variable degrees of striking there can be similar coins selling for ten or twenty times as much as others of their type. Where to draw the line for the good and the bad can be hard to determine. </p><p><br /></p><p>A few years ago I visited (in summer) a small coin shop in Ohio that had bought a 'late grandpa' collection including few ancients and a lot of well worn anonymous folles. They were at a loss what to do with them since their customer base was made up of modern collectors. I suggested waiting until Christmas and putting them out in a dish for $10 each as stocking stuffers. I wonder what they did. I bought one that was better than most and a style of A's I liked. It is a large Class A2. The hole is old. It is hard to say what I paid since my bill was one price for a dozen coins I bought that day. I allotted it $5. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]675374[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Twenty years earlier was this similar A2 coin that was $25 from a 'real' ancient dealer who knew it was better than coins without obverse legends but still missing face details. Adding that face would have made it a $100 coin. wanted it for the clear Emmanual on obverse.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]675377[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Third is another full service dealer coin for $29 with better face (flat nose) but no Emmanuel. I liked the beard detail. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]675378[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, is my favorite anonymous (a smaller A3) with less detail but clearly overstruck on an as of Gordian III that was nearly 800 years old when it was overstruck. The as might have been a $50 coin if it had not been ruined by those pesky Byzantines. It has half decent detail with half Emmanuel and half face so probably would have been a $50 coin were it not for interference from that really old kid. Doing the (new) math we have $50+$50 = $210 to a VCoins dealer. I would have paid more. I have received several inquiries from people on CT and other online venues asking if I want to sell it. It is currently my favorite coin purchased in the last 50 years and I am neither a Gordian or a Byzantine specialist. I would like to see it go to a good home when I am finished with it. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]675383[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2848107, member: 19463"]Anonymous folles are among the most incorrectly priced coins in the market. We know on all coins that condition is everything. When we have a facing bust as on these coins and extremely variable degrees of striking there can be similar coins selling for ten or twenty times as much as others of their type. Where to draw the line for the good and the bad can be hard to determine. A few years ago I visited (in summer) a small coin shop in Ohio that had bought a 'late grandpa' collection including few ancients and a lot of well worn anonymous folles. They were at a loss what to do with them since their customer base was made up of modern collectors. I suggested waiting until Christmas and putting them out in a dish for $10 each as stocking stuffers. I wonder what they did. I bought one that was better than most and a style of A's I liked. It is a large Class A2. The hole is old. It is hard to say what I paid since my bill was one price for a dozen coins I bought that day. I allotted it $5. [ATTACH=full]675374[/ATTACH] Twenty years earlier was this similar A2 coin that was $25 from a 'real' ancient dealer who knew it was better than coins without obverse legends but still missing face details. Adding that face would have made it a $100 coin. wanted it for the clear Emmanual on obverse. [ATTACH=full]675377[/ATTACH] Third is another full service dealer coin for $29 with better face (flat nose) but no Emmanuel. I liked the beard detail. [ATTACH=full]675378[/ATTACH] Finally, is my favorite anonymous (a smaller A3) with less detail but clearly overstruck on an as of Gordian III that was nearly 800 years old when it was overstruck. The as might have been a $50 coin if it had not been ruined by those pesky Byzantines. It has half decent detail with half Emmanuel and half face so probably would have been a $50 coin were it not for interference from that really old kid. Doing the (new) math we have $50+$50 = $210 to a VCoins dealer. I would have paid more. I have received several inquiries from people on CT and other online venues asking if I want to sell it. It is currently my favorite coin purchased in the last 50 years and I am neither a Gordian or a Byzantine specialist. I would like to see it go to a good home when I am finished with it. [ATTACH=full]675383[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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