Anna Perenna .. finally

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Clavdivs, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    One of the joys of CoinTalk for a new collector is being introduced to new types and reading the great write ups that our members produce - it really is amazing.
    Many times these great write ups have instantly added a coin to my "want list".. this list is long and ever changing. However a coin depicting Anna Perenna has been ever present.

    Here is my new coin.. it has lovely toning and I really like the bankers marks that add some nice character (I do love to see evidence of circulation).

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    C. Annius T.f T.n and L. Fabius L.f Hispaniensis (moneyers) 82-81 BC
    mint in north Italy or Spain, 19mm, 3.89g


    OBV: Diademed, draped bust of Anna Perenna r, caduceus behind, scales before, plow below. C ANNI TF TN PRO COS EX
    REV: Victory with palm frond, driving galloping quadriga r. Q above, L FABI LF HISP in ex.



    There is so much that has interested me in this coin. The plow (well I think it is a plow?) on the obverse is a control mark - and I have read that there are over 15 different symbols that are used for this issue... from other farm implements, to weapon and animals.. I do not have RIC to confirm the number or the exact descriptions.

    Next is the extremely interesting mythology behind Anna Perenna - this thread by our own @Jochen1 really hooked me and is well worth a read:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/anna-perenna.346731/

    More here:
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330485397_Ovid's_Anna_Perenna_and_the_Coin_of_Gaius_Annius

    Also the history behind the issue - something we all enjoy:

    C. Annius while still holding the position of Moneyer in Rome, was directed by Sulla to take up a proconsular assignment in Spain... he took this opportunity to mint this issue. The issues were all struck in 82-81 BC.. all under supervision of the two quaestors who also accompanied him to Spain - Lucius Fabius and Gaius Tarquitius, and their names appear on the reverse of their respective coins.
    C. Annius, upon his arrival in Spain then had to deal with the former governor Q. Sertorius .. a supporter of Marius - who was not to be dislodged from Spain without a fight. And fight he did... thus began the Sertorian Wars.

    More reading: ..
    https://www.academia.edu/36654648/The_Coinage_of_C._Annius_Luscus

    Well if you're still with me.. please post anything you like (I know there a quite a few members that own this issue..)
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2020
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Wonderful, well detailed example @Clavdivs
     
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  4. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    Crawford 366/1a:

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    Crawford 366/1b:

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    Crawford 366/1c:

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    Crawford 366/2b:

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    Phil Davis
     
  5. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

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  6. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    Sure, it's 366/1a. A plow (well, a plough in Crawford) is indeed one of the symbols he lists, but I think your symbol is a sword in scabbard.
     
  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    Lovely example, @Clavdivs! Here's the one I bought for my dad 5 years ago for his birthday. I believe it has a plough as the obverse control.

    RR Annius - Anna Perenna.jpg ROMAN REPUBLIC
    AR Denarius. 3.82g, 18.8mm. Northern Italian or Spanish mint, 82-81 BC. C. Annius T.f. T.n and L. Fabius L.f. Hispaniensis, moneyers. Crawford 366/1b; Sydenham 748a; RSC Annia 2. O: C.ANNI.T.F.T.N.PRO.COS.EX.S.C, draped bust of Anna Perenna right, wearing stephane; winged caduceus to left, scales to right, plough below neck. R: L.FABI.L.F.HISP, Victory driving quadriga right, holding palm and reins; Q and dot above horses.
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Carnix
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    What is the dot that floats above the second horse's nose?
     
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  9. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Beautiful example and a worthy gift!
     
  10. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Interesting.. the dot is seen on all examples posted so far on this thread.
    @zumbly 's attribution mentions the "q and dot above horses"..
    Do we know what the "q" (if it's a Q) references?
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Congrats @Clavdivs ! I really like your Denarius! Just the right wear, and the marks are great. Traveled well, and been far, seeing the Roman World. Very nice.

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    RR Annius Luscus Hispaniensis 82-81 BCE AR Den Fem scales caduceus Quadriga Q (Questor), Sertorius S 289 Cr 366-1
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

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  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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    C. Annius T.f. T.n and L. Fabius L.f. Hispaniensis. (82 - 81 B.C.)
    AR Denarius
    O: C ANNI T F T N PRO COS EX S C, Draped bust of Anna Perenna right, wearing stephane; S • below neck; all within bead and reel border.
    R: L·FABI·L·F·HISP Victory driving galloping quadriga right, holding palm frond and reins; Q above horses.
    20mm
    3.6g
    Crawford 366/2a; Sydenham 748c; Annia 3
     
  14. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    @zumbly 's attribution says "Q and dot above horses."

    We know it's not a dot.. it's something.
    Perhaps it's not a Q either? It does look a little odd:

    Maybe it's a Roman sling and bullet??
     
  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Most folks think it is Questor issue. The Dot, it well is a mystery to me.

    It means... He is back...
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    RR AR Quinarius 16mm 1.77g P Sabinus Rome 99 BCE Jupiter r E 3 pellets - P SABINE Q in ex Victory trophy E 3 pellets Cr 331-1
     
  16. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    Great coin, I like the bankers mark also. I also like the scale on your coin. I have a few with scales. This one is a brockage.
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  17. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    Great new coin! Good thing my fouree doesn’t have any bankers mark or the forger would’ve been busted! I wonder what caused the layer of silver to erode like this?
    C528F5D6-D563-4F21-B2FA-44FFE6BD8D3E.jpeg C. Annius T. F. T. N. and L. Fabius L. F. Hisoaniensis
    82-81 BC. Mint in northern Italy or SpainDenarius AR17mm., 3,61g.
    C ANNI T F T N PRO COS EX S C, draped bust of Anna Perenna right, wearing stephane
    Former Savoca
     
  18. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    thanks for the clarification.. appreciated
     
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  19. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Supporter! Supporter

    Beautiful coin Clavdivs, fantastic toning.
     
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