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<p>[QUOTE="curtislclay, post: 7719512, member: 89514"]Doug,</p><p><br /></p><p>Dating Philip's Eastern antoniniani would be a tough job. It's unlikely that the types will fall into such a neat and systematic sequence of issues as at Rome.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only types that can definitely be attributed to 249 are those using the Eastern mint's own TR P VI rev. legend, P M TR P VI COS P P, with types Felicitas standing, copied from Rome, plus three original types that Rome didn't use for Philip, namely emperor sacrificing and lion walking left or right.</p><p><br /></p><p>Otherwise, virtually every Eastern type copies a Roman type, so cannot have been struck in the East before the mint of Rome introduced that same type.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, should we believe that the other explicit dates on Eastern antoniniani, TR P III (rare) and TR P IIII (common), were really struck in those named years 246 and 247? Or might they have been struck later, in 248 or 249, the Eastern mint merely having copied Rome-mint coins that were already a couple of years old?</p><p><br /></p><p>I find that the beard-no beard criterion generally works quite well for separating father and son. There are some differences in facial features also. I would assume you have no difficulty attributing the three antoniniani you illustrate to Philip I followed by two Philip II?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="curtislclay, post: 7719512, member: 89514"]Doug, Dating Philip's Eastern antoniniani would be a tough job. It's unlikely that the types will fall into such a neat and systematic sequence of issues as at Rome. The only types that can definitely be attributed to 249 are those using the Eastern mint's own TR P VI rev. legend, P M TR P VI COS P P, with types Felicitas standing, copied from Rome, plus three original types that Rome didn't use for Philip, namely emperor sacrificing and lion walking left or right. Otherwise, virtually every Eastern type copies a Roman type, so cannot have been struck in the East before the mint of Rome introduced that same type. However, should we believe that the other explicit dates on Eastern antoniniani, TR P III (rare) and TR P IIII (common), were really struck in those named years 246 and 247? Or might they have been struck later, in 248 or 249, the Eastern mint merely having copied Rome-mint coins that were already a couple of years old? I find that the beard-no beard criterion generally works quite well for separating father and son. There are some differences in facial features also. I would assume you have no difficulty attributing the three antoniniani you illustrate to Philip I followed by two Philip II?[/QUOTE]
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