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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 6334624, member: 110504"]Now I'm seriously interested in getting some idea of what <i>is</i> extant in primary literature for Elagabalus. And Roman historiography more generally. If Classical sources were as prone to bias as medieval ones were, it's like, Yikes; swiftly followed by, Condolences. ...Just, Dang, welcome to the club.</p><p>Regarding MJ, I had the (intentional irony alert: ) privilege of hearing more about him, merely by osmosis, than I ever did about Elagabalus. (Along with, for instance, Whitney Houston, he provided that much of the soundtrack to the '80's. ...While I was listening to lots of reggae. Used vinyl was Cheap in those days!)</p><p>One, the reason he did the skin-lightening part of what he did to himself was largely reducible to vitiligo, a condition that attacks the natural melanin of Black people, eventuating in random, very pink patches of skin. The color is reminiscent of Black albinos, except that it shows up Anywhere --face or hands, for instance-- in ways that defy any sort of, may we say, esthetic consistency. Kind of thing where, when you see someone with this, you can't not feel sorry for them. Michael Jackson was watching his original skin color fall apart, and adapted the best way he had the means to, as a public performer, to return to any kind of consistency, this color or that.</p><p>Two, Please, can we just Lose the 'neither black nor white' construct? Just starting with ethnic heritage, there are Lots of people who are happy to be both. ...Which, in turn, is the diametrical opposite of 'neither.' ...Or last I checked. In a world stinking of false dichotomies (the immediate context among them), that Ain't one of 'em.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 6334624, member: 110504"]Now I'm seriously interested in getting some idea of what [I]is[/I] extant in primary literature for Elagabalus. And Roman historiography more generally. If Classical sources were as prone to bias as medieval ones were, it's like, Yikes; swiftly followed by, Condolences. ...Just, Dang, welcome to the club. Regarding MJ, I had the (intentional irony alert: ) privilege of hearing more about him, merely by osmosis, than I ever did about Elagabalus. (Along with, for instance, Whitney Houston, he provided that much of the soundtrack to the '80's. ...While I was listening to lots of reggae. Used vinyl was Cheap in those days!) One, the reason he did the skin-lightening part of what he did to himself was largely reducible to vitiligo, a condition that attacks the natural melanin of Black people, eventuating in random, very pink patches of skin. The color is reminiscent of Black albinos, except that it shows up Anywhere --face or hands, for instance-- in ways that defy any sort of, may we say, esthetic consistency. Kind of thing where, when you see someone with this, you can't not feel sorry for them. Michael Jackson was watching his original skin color fall apart, and adapted the best way he had the means to, as a public performer, to return to any kind of consistency, this color or that. Two, Please, can we just Lose the 'neither black nor white' construct? Just starting with ethnic heritage, there are Lots of people who are happy to be both. ...Which, in turn, is the diametrical opposite of 'neither.' ...Or last I checked. In a world stinking of false dichotomies (the immediate context among them), that Ain't one of 'em.[/QUOTE]
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