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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;medoraman, post: 2353042, member: 26302&quot;]Anyone who drinks the koolaid of giving undue weight to the grade on the holder is the one who is going to end up with a pile of overgraded coins. To say the phrase meant to emphasize the importance of the COIN over the holder is &quot;sophomoric garbage&quot; is in my opinion setting themselves up for failure.</p><p><br /></p><p>Can PCGS and NGC holders be somewhat guarantees of quality? Sure. However, sir you more than most should know how the PCGS/NGC grade is but a PART of the value a coin may trade for. That is what that phrase means, the COIN, and not the plastic, is the real determinant of value. Way, way, WAY too many new collectors &quot;collect&quot; plastic. Whatever is on the slab is what they &quot;value&quot; the coin at. Only paying attention to what a grader thought about it in 5 seconds is the truly comedic &quot;sophomoric garbage&quot;. And that is what most of these types of collectors can only do, since they never learned to grade for themselves. Not completely their fault, though, since I have no idea how I would learn to grade if I had to look at every coin through plastic. You will notice the TPG graders never try to grade looking through plastic, they have the coin IN HAND to grade it. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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