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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 8277892, member: 110504&quot;]That&#039;s a Really. Solid. Example, [USER=89687]@ominus1[/USER].</p><p>I don&#039;t have pics of mine of Orleans from the same reign ...and compared to yours, no one&#039;s missing a whole lot.</p><p>But here&#039;s one in the name of Hugh, a son of Robert I (996-1031) who predeceased him, and was viscount of Orleans, c. 1010-1025.&nbsp; &quot;H Y [/V] G O&quot; shows up, a letter at a time, in the fields of the obverse.&nbsp; --Along with a border legend which makes no sense to me, other than as a late blundering of the single most common Carolingian one, &quot;GRATIA D-I REX.&quot;&nbsp; ...Inviting the guess that, both on anonymous issues later in the 11th century, and the ones in the name of Louis VI and VII, the letters in the same field are reducible to the same sort of thing. (Duplessy, <u>Feodales</u> 522).[ATTACH=full]1461714[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1461718[/ATTACH]</p><p>And here&#039;s an example of the first issue of Orleans to be in the name of a reigning king, Philip I, 1060-1108.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1461747[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>...So what the heck.&nbsp; Thanks to your Louis thread that this one continues, most of my Louis -es, ending with IX, got uploaded just lately.&nbsp; But for other Capetians, here are a couple, to either side of Louis VI.&nbsp; The first one is a denier of Hugh&#039;s dad, Robert I, a coissue with Adelberon, bishop of Laon 977-1030.&nbsp; ...Yeah, there&#039;s some interesting overlap between royal and feudal issues, especially episcopal ones.&nbsp; (And Yes, they&#039;re pretty awful.)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1461736[/ATTACH]</p><p>Continuing the same theme, here&#039;s one of Philip II (1180-1223), also of Laon, this time coissued with Roger de Rosoi, Bishop 1174-1201.</p><p>...Except, Oh, Rats, I can&#039;t find pics of that one.&nbsp; But it continues the dual facing portraits.</p><p>Instead, here&#039;s one from the same reign, reflecting Philip&#039;s temporary custody of the barony of Deols, during the heiress&#039;s minority.&nbsp; Even as late as this, there was the same kind of dialectic happening between royal and feudal dynamics.&nbsp; ...This is why I have to love the French stuff this much; the correspondence between the coins and the history is this marked and, in a sense, this intimate.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1461750[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1461752[/ATTACH]</p><p>Legends: (from 5 o&#039;clock: ) FILIPVS REX; (rev.: ) +DE DOLIS (&#039;S&#039; couchant).</p><p>It&#039;s getting late for people on the east coast; probably time to shut up for a minute.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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