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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lolli, post: 3809394, member: 96900&quot;]It is actually true that the planchets of transfer die fakes and modern die fakes are often wrong if you compare this plachets with planchets of authentic coins from the same emission. In this case the plachets do look very similar or identical to the planchets of the specimens in museum collections with old pedigree and the Leontinoi emissions do have a huge variety of different planchets so this is not proving anything.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025271&amp;objectId=1295085&amp;partId=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025271&amp;objectId=1295085&amp;partId=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.britishmuseum.org/resea...?assetId=1613025271&amp;objectId=1295085&amp;partId=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8556" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8556" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8556</a></p><p><br /></p><p>You can of course try to count dots of the dotted border or comparing their size and position to identify recutting but you need to reconstruct how the real dotted border in the authetnic ancient dies and at different die states looked like and reconstructing seems here very difficult to impossible because the proven authentic examples in museum collection are very rare so you will only find a very very small numer of them and most seem to be pretty worn and parts of the dotted border are on all coins missing due to &quot;off&quot; centering (I think that the die design was very large in relation to the size of planchet which makes it very difficult to impossible that the whole dotted border fits on planchet) and some dots of dotted border can be missing or mishaped or modified due to striking for example die shift (slippage) or filled die or bad strike like soft strike or wear of the dies or wear on coins or due to corrosion etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>I fear that the &quot;reconstruction&quot; of dies states and dotted border was done with the coins from the huge hoard and there with the coins Gionnysicily expected to be authentic and not with the proven authentic coins from museum collections.</p><p>So this &quot;die study&quot; is worthless if you can even call it die study if only some of the coins were used and the authenticity of the used coins is not close as good as for the proven authentic ones in museum collections with good and old pedigree.</p><p><br /></p><p>To edge cracks, some authentic Leontinoi tetradrachms in museum collections have very strong edge cracks and some authentic Leontinoi tetradrachms in museum collections have no edge cracks or very small edge cracks so this is not proving anything. And the flan shape of the authentic Leontinoi tetradrachms in museum collections can differ pretty much, too.</p><p><br /></p><p>No edge crack and similar flan but different Leontinoi issue </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025252&amp;objectId=1295104&amp;partId=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025252&amp;objectId=1295104&amp;partId=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.britishmuseum.org/resea...?assetId=1613025252&amp;objectId=1295104&amp;partId=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8540" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8540" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8540</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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