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<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3807865, member: 96900"]Who said that all Leontinoi tetradrachms must be from the same hoard? How do you know that there has been only one hoard ? I assume looters went on searching and found later 1 or more Leontinoi hoards.</p><p>The plachets of Leontinoi tetradrachms differ pretty much even from coins from the same dies and authentic coins with such round planchets with part of the casting channel (sprue) do exist so this does not prove anything. The flaw right to the eye seems to appear in the dies at a late die state while the dies show already some significant die wear at fine details like hair so this detail loss is realated to late die state and not to related to detail loss you can find on transfer die cast or electrotype fakes. Again I know the Lamoneta posts and they are not convincing !</p><p>But I of course understand that you only accept "arguments and opinions that confirm your doubts on this coins like the posts on lamoneta.</p><p><br /></p><p>Different Leon. issue but similar flan</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025252&objectId=1295104&partId=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025252&objectId=1295104&partId=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025252&objectId=1295104&partId=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8540" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8540" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8540</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Same issue and same round flan but with edge cracks</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025271&objectId=1295085&partId=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025271&objectId=1295085&partId=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025271&objectId=1295085&partId=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8556" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8556" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8556</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3807865, member: 96900"]Who said that all Leontinoi tetradrachms must be from the same hoard? How do you know that there has been only one hoard ? I assume looters went on searching and found later 1 or more Leontinoi hoards. The plachets of Leontinoi tetradrachms differ pretty much even from coins from the same dies and authentic coins with such round planchets with part of the casting channel (sprue) do exist so this does not prove anything. The flaw right to the eye seems to appear in the dies at a late die state while the dies show already some significant die wear at fine details like hair so this detail loss is realated to late die state and not to related to detail loss you can find on transfer die cast or electrotype fakes. Again I know the Lamoneta posts and they are not convincing ! But I of course understand that you only accept "arguments and opinions that confirm your doubts on this coins like the posts on lamoneta. Different Leon. issue but similar flan [URL]https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025252&objectId=1295104&partId=1[/URL] [URL]http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8540[/URL] Same issue and same round flan but with edge cracks [URL]https://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details/collection_image_gallery.aspx?assetId=1613025271&objectId=1295085&partId=1[/URL] [URL]http://numismatics.org/collection/1944.100.8556[/URL][/QUOTE]
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