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<p>[QUOTE="pprp, post: 3807731, member: 94602"]So this is to summarize several different discussions in fora and in private. The hoard of the SNG ANS 257 leontini tetradrachms (aka wet hair Apollo) were discovered most probably in 1986. It is quite safe to say that all were buried immediately after minting so they have no wear because of circulation. The differences observed are due to the different states of the dies and the corrosion which hit the coins on the surface of the hoard. Old specimens from old auctions and museum collections are all pretty much worn. If you are further interested, in lamoneta you can find:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. A collection of photos from old provenanced specimen</p><p>2. A study of the deterioration of the dies.</p><p><br /></p><p>In short, the die break in the eye of Apollo + the hair is not a diagnostic of genuine coins. Coins with round instead of sharp edges are most probably fakes and if you notice this a common characteristic of the fakes published above. Then the metal surface is a give away. If you study enough photos you will immediately recognize the wrong ones. There are also arguments on the number of dots of the dotted border but these are not widely endorsed so I will comment any further.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, the coin I posted is originating from ROMA who are collaborators of Lanz and hence Lolli has again another obvious CoI so this would explain his sudden pop up for an otherwise obvious case of a fake.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="pprp, post: 3807731, member: 94602"]So this is to summarize several different discussions in fora and in private. The hoard of the SNG ANS 257 leontini tetradrachms (aka wet hair Apollo) were discovered most probably in 1986. It is quite safe to say that all were buried immediately after minting so they have no wear because of circulation. The differences observed are due to the different states of the dies and the corrosion which hit the coins on the surface of the hoard. Old specimens from old auctions and museum collections are all pretty much worn. If you are further interested, in lamoneta you can find: 1. A collection of photos from old provenanced specimen 2. A study of the deterioration of the dies. In short, the die break in the eye of Apollo + the hair is not a diagnostic of genuine coins. Coins with round instead of sharp edges are most probably fakes and if you notice this a common characteristic of the fakes published above. Then the metal surface is a give away. If you study enough photos you will immediately recognize the wrong ones. There are also arguments on the number of dots of the dotted border but these are not widely endorsed so I will comment any further. Finally, the coin I posted is originating from ROMA who are collaborators of Lanz and hence Lolli has again another obvious CoI so this would explain his sudden pop up for an otherwise obvious case of a fake.[/QUOTE]
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