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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 1804812, member: 19463&quot;]I have always said that the number system as we see it in US coins suffers from too much inconsistency&nbsp; to be used for ancients where wear is a relatively minor part of whether a coin is desirable or not.&nbsp; US coins rarely leave the mint at less than MS60 but ancients often started life fine at best.&nbsp; US collectors live for the difference between MS63 and MS64 but how often do you see degrees of VF or F or even recognition that a MS69 coin with a touch of wear can be better looking than a similar one which never was better than MS60 but both are now EF.&nbsp; Does a MS60 have any chance of becoming an AU58 or is that grade&nbsp; more likely to be the result of a MS68 someone spent once?&nbsp; Why do we never see F11 or 17?&nbsp; In ancients, there are a hundred levels of each letter grade step.&nbsp; My Memmius is a good example of a coin with F12 details but F implies wear that the coin does not have.&nbsp; It is, IMHO, a perfect MS12.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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