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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 1833130, member: 56859"]Well, it's been a very unpleasant month on a number of fronts but my day was brightened considerably when these arrived!</p><p><br /></p><p>A keen-eyed friend who regularly scours eBay alerted me to this lot of 2 fractionals. Suboptimal pictures but they were definitely interesting and one appeared to be a winged boar and the other a winged man-headed bull. The listing (British seller), was uncertain of the origin and thought they might be Troas, Ionia. Nope <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Super happy with this score, which came to $53 USD, a great portion of which was shipping. A bargain!</p><p><br /></p><p>Crossing another winged boar issuer off the list <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]303128[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's what I think is the correct attribution:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>ISLANDS off CARIA, Rhodos. <i>Ialysos</i>. </b>480-408 BC</p><p>AR Obol (or some other size-appropriate fractional name), 9 mm, 0.6 gm</p><p>Obv: forepart of winged boar left</p><p>Rev: helmeted head of Athena right within incuse square.</p><p>Ref: SNG Keckman 315; Karl 373 (a guess based on a similar CNG coin...)</p><p><br /></p><p>CNG archives page with <a href="http://cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?PAGE_NUM=&PAGE=1&TABS_TYPE=2&CONTAINER_TYPE_ID=1&IS_ADVANCED=1&ITEM_DESC=Ialysos&ITEM_IS_SOLD=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?PAGE_NUM=&PAGE=1&TABS_TYPE=2&CONTAINER_TYPE_ID=1&IS_ADVANCED=1&ITEM_DESC=Ialysos&ITEM_IS_SOLD=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1" rel="nofollow">similar coins</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]303129[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This one I'm less sure of-- more reading and searching will be required. I think it's from Caria but in wildwinds these seem to be attributed to Lycian Dynasts. Mine is 9 mm, 0.7 gm. The reverse lettering is OFOV, I think. Same as the similar examples, although in wildwinds it is translated to Uvug and is listed as a Lycian dynast.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a similar coin in CNG's archives, with its attribution (but there others in wildwinds attributed to Lycian dynasts):</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://cngcoins.com/photos/big/2910106.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>CARIA, Uncertain. <i>Orou. </i></b>Local dynast, circa 450-400 BC. AR 1/16 Stater (10mm, 0.70 g, 9h). Aigenetan standard. Forepart of winged man-headed bull right / Female head right within dotted border; all within incuse square. Konuk, <i>Orou</i> 2.3; SNG von Aulock 8474.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 1833130, member: 56859"]Well, it's been a very unpleasant month on a number of fronts but my day was brightened considerably when these arrived! A keen-eyed friend who regularly scours eBay alerted me to this lot of 2 fractionals. Suboptimal pictures but they were definitely interesting and one appeared to be a winged boar and the other a winged man-headed bull. The listing (British seller), was uncertain of the origin and thought they might be Troas, Ionia. Nope :D Super happy with this score, which came to $53 USD, a great portion of which was shipping. A bargain! Crossing another winged boar issuer off the list :) [ATTACH=full]303128[/ATTACH] Here's what I think is the correct attribution: [B]ISLANDS off CARIA, Rhodos. [I]Ialysos[/I]. [/B]480-408 BC AR Obol (or some other size-appropriate fractional name), 9 mm, 0.6 gm Obv: forepart of winged boar left Rev: helmeted head of Athena right within incuse square. Ref: SNG Keckman 315; Karl 373 (a guess based on a similar CNG coin...) CNG archives page with [URL='http://cngcoins.com/Search.aspx?PAGE_NUM=&PAGE=1&TABS_TYPE=2&CONTAINER_TYPE_ID=1&IS_ADVANCED=1&ITEM_DESC=Ialysos&ITEM_IS_SOLD=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_1=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_3=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_2=1&SEARCH_IN_CONTAINER_TYPE_ID_4=1']similar coins[/URL] [ATTACH=full]303129[/ATTACH] This one I'm less sure of-- more reading and searching will be required. I think it's from Caria but in wildwinds these seem to be attributed to Lycian Dynasts. Mine is 9 mm, 0.7 gm. The reverse lettering is OFOV, I think. Same as the similar examples, although in wildwinds it is translated to Uvug and is listed as a Lycian dynast. Here's a similar coin in CNG's archives, with its attribution (but there others in wildwinds attributed to Lycian dynasts): [IMG]http://cngcoins.com/photos/big/2910106.jpg[/IMG] [B]CARIA, Uncertain. [I]Orou. [/I][/B]Local dynast, circa 450-400 BC. AR 1/16 Stater (10mm, 0.70 g, 9h). Aigenetan standard. Forepart of winged man-headed bull right / Female head right within dotted border; all within incuse square. Konuk, [I]Orou[/I] 2.3; SNG von Aulock 8474.[/QUOTE]
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