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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 694292, member: 19463&quot;]I believe both are barbarous copies of Roman coins that tend to be found on what was then the edges of the Empire.&nbsp; The big class of these is represented by the larger of your coins and is called &#039;Barbarous Radiates&#039;.&nbsp; These tend to copy coins of the Gallic Roman Emperors of the 270&#039;s AD and range from charming but slightly odd versions of the real thing to completely illegible and very tiny scraps of metal decorated with stick figures.&nbsp; The smaller of yours does not seem to have the Radiate crown expected on the above category but that makes no difference since people outside the regions where it was easy to get real coins were always willing to make their own and the copies could reproduce designs many years earlier than the period in which they were made.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can not ID your coins as to what they copied.&nbsp; For comparison I&#039;ll show a middle of the road copy of Tetricus II / Spes (here with retrograde legend on the reverse).&nbsp; In style, they get both much better and much worse than this one.&nbsp; Few will have a lot of legend but a little experience allows ID of the intent in many cases.&nbsp;&nbsp; The pattern on your smaller one may be the same Spes skirt shown on my coin but that is a wild guess more than an identification.</p><p><img src="http://www.pbase.com/image/117607319.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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