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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;YOC, post: 2013555, member: 58941&quot;]I agree with all the comments.&nbsp; Having cleaned several thousand coins....I can see the coins which have been stripped and toned (as i am sure many of you can) and I have to say this really puts me off a coin.&nbsp; I can spot these coins, not because I have ever toned mine, but because I recognise the pitting and wear caused by an inexperienced cleaner and can therefore know with almost certainty that the coin should be shiny and devoid of patina, and not possess an &#039;even brown patina&#039; which the listing almost always describes.&nbsp; Methods I employ are sympathetic and so some of the coins i have offered in the past have been sold with almost perfect surfaces and intact patinas, but these methods have cost me many thousands in order to &#039;buy&#039; techniques, which use no chemicals.</p><p>You take what is on offer if you really want a coin so badly, that you cannot wait for a genuine patina, but I agree with Dougs comments..... that bulk cleaning by people who should leave them well alone has littered the market with badly cleaned and doctored coins.&nbsp; &#039;Cabinet toned&#039; doesnt seem to be an expression I see in many listings.......[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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