[Ancients] Saloninus - Spes Publica

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  1. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

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    Saloninus AR Antoninianus. Antioch mint, 260 AD, 3.8g, 20mm

    OBV: SALON VALERIANVS NOB CAES, Radiate draped bust right.

    REV: SPES PVBLICA, Spes presenting flower to prince.

    REF: RIC 36, Cohen 95.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice, he's a tad scarce.

    Mine:
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  4. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice! Mines not so nice :{} 100_7405.JPG
     
  5. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Cool coins,

    Saloninus is a good lad to have coins from. poor thing.
    I've got only two, one of them being a middle bronze that you seldom see :

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    Saloninus, Antoninianus Cologne mint, AD 258-260
    SALON VALERIANVS CAES, radiate and draped bust right
    PIETAS AVG, sacrificial implements
    2.85 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 41, RCV # 10767

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    Saloninus, Middle bronze Rome mint, AD 258-260
    LIC COR SAL VALERIANVS N CAES, draped bust right
    PRINCIPI IVVENTVTIS, Saloninus standing left holding globe and spear. A captive at his feet. S - C in field. Mintmark ? at exergue
    7.1 gr
    Ref : RCV # 10778 v, Cohen # 90, RIC # 34

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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Great pick-up, Gil-galad ... congrats!

    Yup => poor lil' Saloninus, eh? (not a very happy tale) ...

    I have a great example of him as Caesar (this is definitely one of my favourite coins) ...


    EGYPT, Alexandria. Saloninus. As Caesar
    BI Tetradrachm

    AD 258-260
    Dated RY 7 of Valerian I and Gallienus (AD 259/60)
    Diameter: 22 mm
    Weight: 13.00 grams
    Obverse: Bareheaded, draped, and cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: Eagle standing left, head right, holding wreath in beak; L Z (date) across field
    Reference: Köln 3005; Dattari (Savio) 5377; K&G 93.8
    Other: 12h … VF, even brown surfaces. Rare
    From the Robert M. Harlick Collection


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  7. dougsmit

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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Well, now that I'm back home, I can post some of my coins.
    Saloninus
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    SALONINUS Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: SALON VALERIANVS NOB CAES Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
    REVERSE: SPES PVBLICA, Prince, holding spear and Spes, holding flower standing face to face; wreath above
    Struck at Samosata, 259-260 AD
    2.81g, 22mm
    RIC V 36 var.

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    SALONINUS Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: SAL VALERIANVS CAES, radiate draped bust right
    REVERSE: PRINC IVVENT, prince standing left holding baton & standard
    Struck at Lugdunum, 259-260 AD
    2.2g, 21mm
    RIC 10, C 61

    Valerian II
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    VALERIAN II AR Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: DIVO VALERIANO CAES - Radiate, draped bust right.
    REVERSE: CONSACRATIO - Valerian II riding eagle right, upwards
    Struck at Rome, 257-58 AD
    3.2g, 23mm
    RIC 9, S 3071
     
  9. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Very nice coins you guys.

    I thought there was also a debate about who were the parents of Saloninus. I can't really remember right off hand.

    Welcome back Bing. Let's see some of those coins you picked up over there, assuming that you did. When you get around to it.

    Here the non-scanner photo of the coin. This is one of those moments where I wish I had a real camera. But I keep buying coins instead of getting a camera. lol

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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Thanks Gil. No, I never had a chance to shop for coins. However, I was in a town called Bydgoszcz, Poland which was just happening to have a display of Roman coins at a small museum. The coins were on loan from the Warsaw and Berlin Museums. I took picks, but I haven't uploaded them yet. I also visited the castle of the Teutonic Order in Malbork, Poland (formerly Prussia) and I saw the Book of Kels in Dublin. All in all an interesting trip. But sadly, no coins.
     
  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nice new saloninus GG!

    I don't have a saloninus or valerian ii. :(

    hope you had a good trip bing...sounds nice.

    lets see those coin pics! :woot:
     
  12. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    That's great that you went to a museum and saw some coins. By all means, post them when you get around to it.

    Here is my Valerian II which is not in good shape.

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    Valerian II AR Antoninianus, 256-258 AD, 1.9g, 22mm

    OBV: P LIC VALERIANVS CAES, Radiate draped bust right.

    REV: IOVI CRESCENTI, Jupiter riding goat Amalthea right.

    REF: RIC 13
     
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  13. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    The answer is NO, Doug, definitely.

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    Valerian II, Antoninianus Rome mint, AD 258
    DIVO CAES VALERIANO, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust of Valerianus junior right
    CONSECRATIO, altar
    2.88 gr
    Ref : RCV # 10608, RIC # 24, RSC # 13

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    Valerian II, Antoninianus - Cologne mint, AD 258
    DIVO VALERIANO CAES, radiate and draped bust right
    CONSACRATIO (sic), Valerian II raising hand and holding sceptre on an eagle flying right
    1.70 gr
    Ref : Cohen # 5, RCV # 10606

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    Valerian II, antoninianus - Cologne mint, AD 257-258
    VALERIANVS CAES, radiate and draped bust of Valerian junior right
    IOVI CRESCENTI, Young Jupiter on back of goat Amalthea right
    3.66 gr

    And the last one, being the sister coin of the one shown by Steve a few posts above :

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    Valerian II, Tetradrachm Alexandria mint, year 4 (AD 256-257)
    TT LIK KOPOYALEPIANOS KAIE CEB, bare bust, draped and cuirassed
    Eagle standing left, head right, holding wreath in beak. L delta in field
    10,18 gr
    Ref : Emmet # 3764/4
    RCV # 10754

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  14. Joycev

    Joycev New Member

    Hello i was going threw some coins my father left me and i have one like Valerian II, Tetradrachm Alexandria mint, year 4 (Cited from: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-saloninus-spes-publica.251510/) but mine has a z not a it has the eagel looking to the left and its looking at the z and the l is on the other side of the bird can you tell me what its worth and were to go iam in ca
     
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    Joycev New Member

     
  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Hi Joyce. It would be helpful if you could post a pic of the coin.
     
  17. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    And here I was thinking Gil was back with a new coin...
     
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  18. Joycev

    Joycev New Member

    here is the coin sorry about the pics hope you can give me some advise on it i would like to know what its worth and learn more about it thank you
     

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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ummm, worst pics "ever" ... but great effort (hey, I gave ya your first "like")

    ;)
     
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  20. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Well, it's a tetradrachm of Alexandria, Egypt. That much I can discern. have you got a camera with a macro setting on it, to take a sharp close-up?
     
  21. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    L Z means Year 7. These were dated according to regnal years, so we would have to know the emperor to determine the year the coin was minted according to the Gregorian calendar.
     
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