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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2007383, member: 19463"]Today I went to the small show in Richmond VA which produced five new coins all from one dealer. Of course, both dealers there were at Fredericksburg a couple weeks ago and will be at Baltimore in a couple weeks so I could have talked myself out of going. Of the five coins, two came with surprises when I found them on acsearch. I fail to understand many things but am seriously suspecting that some of the information on some of these online sites is questionable. </p><p><br /></p><p>The subject of this thread is a type I did not know so it was not on my want list. I might not have bought it except for the fact that (a) I trust the dealer and (b) do not claim to know all of the million or so ancient types. This one is in Sear (2403) but is not illustrated there. There are several on acsearch where I learned that the monogram letters on the reverse vary from coin to coin. I was thrilled to find one of the acsearch shown coins had my same monogram. Then I saw that it was my coin and was listed as having been sold in 2012. I did recognize the ticket that came with the coin as being the style used by the listed auction but the bottom part of the ticket had been cut off. I did not pay even 1/3 of the listed realization but that is not unusual for a seller known for selling things for several times their reasonable price. The dealer I bought it from often gets coins that failed to sell in overpriced auctions so I wonder if this one actually sold and was returned, went unpaid by the winning bidder or failed to meet reserve and was wholesaled off with the other losers from the sale. It makes no difference. I would not pay the auction price (I barely paid the bargain price) but am glad to have the coin with its defects and all.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]360801[/ATTACH] </p><p>Boeotia, Federal coinage c.250 BC AR drachm or half stater, S.2405, BCD 95</p><p><br /></p><p>Depending on who you ask the head is Demeter or Persephone. Some say Kore but that just means maiden so I'm going with Persephone because of the chubby face and we all know she got in her difficulties by eating high calorie Pomegranate seeds. The reverse shows Poseidon whose trident and dolphin both got clipped a bit by the edge of the flan. At the right is the monogram A pi and a small Boeotian shield. The legend reads "of the Boeotians" (missing the final N). The gash on the throat of the portrait shows clearly in the seller's photo so I doubt the coin was returned because of it even though I do believe it should have been mentioned in an auction description. At the show, there was no description so I had to see it on my own. </p><p><br /></p><p>3/4 facing heads are not all that easy to engrave. This is not the best I have and the small coin (18mm) is not as impressive as ones we see on tets. I would love to see any others of this issue anyone might have but I'll suggest this would be a place to show any of your facing head or 3/4 facing coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Larissa (3)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]360806[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]360807[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]360808[/ATTACH] </p><p>Rhodes (2)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]360810[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]360811[/ATTACH] </p><p>Tarsos (2)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]360812[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]360813[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2007383, member: 19463"]Today I went to the small show in Richmond VA which produced five new coins all from one dealer. Of course, both dealers there were at Fredericksburg a couple weeks ago and will be at Baltimore in a couple weeks so I could have talked myself out of going. Of the five coins, two came with surprises when I found them on acsearch. I fail to understand many things but am seriously suspecting that some of the information on some of these online sites is questionable. The subject of this thread is a type I did not know so it was not on my want list. I might not have bought it except for the fact that (a) I trust the dealer and (b) do not claim to know all of the million or so ancient types. This one is in Sear (2403) but is not illustrated there. There are several on acsearch where I learned that the monogram letters on the reverse vary from coin to coin. I was thrilled to find one of the acsearch shown coins had my same monogram. Then I saw that it was my coin and was listed as having been sold in 2012. I did recognize the ticket that came with the coin as being the style used by the listed auction but the bottom part of the ticket had been cut off. I did not pay even 1/3 of the listed realization but that is not unusual for a seller known for selling things for several times their reasonable price. The dealer I bought it from often gets coins that failed to sell in overpriced auctions so I wonder if this one actually sold and was returned, went unpaid by the winning bidder or failed to meet reserve and was wholesaled off with the other losers from the sale. It makes no difference. I would not pay the auction price (I barely paid the bargain price) but am glad to have the coin with its defects and all. [ATTACH=full]360801[/ATTACH] Boeotia, Federal coinage c.250 BC AR drachm or half stater, S.2405, BCD 95 Depending on who you ask the head is Demeter or Persephone. Some say Kore but that just means maiden so I'm going with Persephone because of the chubby face and we all know she got in her difficulties by eating high calorie Pomegranate seeds. The reverse shows Poseidon whose trident and dolphin both got clipped a bit by the edge of the flan. At the right is the monogram A pi and a small Boeotian shield. The legend reads "of the Boeotians" (missing the final N). The gash on the throat of the portrait shows clearly in the seller's photo so I doubt the coin was returned because of it even though I do believe it should have been mentioned in an auction description. At the show, there was no description so I had to see it on my own. 3/4 facing heads are not all that easy to engrave. This is not the best I have and the small coin (18mm) is not as impressive as ones we see on tets. I would love to see any others of this issue anyone might have but I'll suggest this would be a place to show any of your facing head or 3/4 facing coins. Larissa (3) [ATTACH=full]360806[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]360807[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]360808[/ATTACH] Rhodes (2) [ATTACH=full]360810[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]360811[/ATTACH] Tarsos (2) [ATTACH=full]360812[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]360813[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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