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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1961837, member: 19463"]I have no idea about the denominations of the Syracuse bronze. The Magna Gracia site shows the two as overlapping. Sear calls the type trias and uses litra for the large 'starfish' reverse coins that MG call drachm. Favorito (relatively amateurish pamphlet) in 1990 called them tetras; I do not have Calciati (1986 but larger volumes in Italian) but suspect that is where MG may have copied the names??? I do not know the origins of either theory. The heavier ones have a rein on the hippocamp while the light ones do not. Whether the two are different denominations or show a weight reduction of one denomination (whatever it is), I do not know. Sear's books are wonderful but he often bases information on BMC or other really old works and can perpetuate old news since so many people read his books even though they are getting a little dated. Scholarship on Greek coins is more complex than Roman who were so kind as to put so much into their legends making attribution easy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Mine weighs 9.7g. I paid way too much in 1989 for this coin with imperfect surfaces and weakish strike but it, like many Syracusan AE, has nice color.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]346396[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Parion is a coin I do not have and probably will not ever own. The real ones look way too much like he rampant fakes and I'm not willing to put the study into the separation of official, barbarous and modern required to make me feel comfortable. There are a half dozen coins I feel that way about but risk the ones with art styles I admire or feel I might be able to separate into the good, the bad and the ugly. You may well sell these to people who are impressed by their antiquity but $30 is a lot for what I see.</p><p><br /></p><p>I did not get anything in the sale. There were 12 lots I watched close but all went above my price (all but one went for double estimate - Lot 345 hit 5X). I have posted before on how I can not justify buying just one lot from Pecunem because of the high shipping charges. Your buying the two lots brings the average down. </p><p><br /></p><p>Has anyone in the US received a bill from customs for Pecunem purchases? I got a form resulting from the earlier sale that brought me my Pescennius Niger denarius but the amount due was zero. When does this become an added expense? That sale brought me three coins and was the first time I had spent that much in one overseas sale so I wondered it that might be a problem.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1961837, member: 19463"]I have no idea about the denominations of the Syracuse bronze. The Magna Gracia site shows the two as overlapping. Sear calls the type trias and uses litra for the large 'starfish' reverse coins that MG call drachm. Favorito (relatively amateurish pamphlet) in 1990 called them tetras; I do not have Calciati (1986 but larger volumes in Italian) but suspect that is where MG may have copied the names??? I do not know the origins of either theory. The heavier ones have a rein on the hippocamp while the light ones do not. Whether the two are different denominations or show a weight reduction of one denomination (whatever it is), I do not know. Sear's books are wonderful but he often bases information on BMC or other really old works and can perpetuate old news since so many people read his books even though they are getting a little dated. Scholarship on Greek coins is more complex than Roman who were so kind as to put so much into their legends making attribution easy. Mine weighs 9.7g. I paid way too much in 1989 for this coin with imperfect surfaces and weakish strike but it, like many Syracusan AE, has nice color. [ATTACH=full]346396[/ATTACH] Parion is a coin I do not have and probably will not ever own. The real ones look way too much like he rampant fakes and I'm not willing to put the study into the separation of official, barbarous and modern required to make me feel comfortable. There are a half dozen coins I feel that way about but risk the ones with art styles I admire or feel I might be able to separate into the good, the bad and the ugly. You may well sell these to people who are impressed by their antiquity but $30 is a lot for what I see. I did not get anything in the sale. There were 12 lots I watched close but all went above my price (all but one went for double estimate - Lot 345 hit 5X). I have posted before on how I can not justify buying just one lot from Pecunem because of the high shipping charges. Your buying the two lots brings the average down. Has anyone in the US received a bill from customs for Pecunem purchases? I got a form resulting from the earlier sale that brought me my Pescennius Niger denarius but the amount due was zero. When does this become an added expense? That sale brought me three coins and was the first time I had spent that much in one overseas sale so I wondered it that might be a problem.[/QUOTE]
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