Ancients, NEWP: Just another common, boring follis of Licinius I

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Licinius I
    AE Follis, 21mm, 3.18g Siscia mint: 315-316.
    Obv.:IMP LIC LICINIVS P F AVG; Laureate head right.
    Reverse.: IOVI CON-SERVATORI; Jupiter standing facing, head left, nude but for chlamys across left shoulder, Victory on globe in right hand, scepter in left, eagle with wreath at feet to left; Γ in right field; • SIS • in exergue
    Reference: RIC VII, 17.
    Ex Harlan Berk, CICF Show, April 2013.

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    :D
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow JA => that coin is awesome!!

    ... both the reverse and the obverse are bringin' it!! (congrats)

    I only have this ol' coin ...

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    ... your example has more of a "six-pack" than my version (apparently I need to head to the gym?!!) ... great coin, my friend
     
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  4. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Dont see anything boring about it. Nice coin, better six pack.
     
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  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'm being facetious of course. These types are a dime-a-dozen in lower grades, but I decided to go full-out and get a respectable example. The one thing it lacks is silvering, but in my book, the engraving style makes up for it more than adequately.
     
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  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Wow, what a great example! Razor sharp and just about perfectly centred.

    The weakness in mine is the off center reverse, but it makes for it with a really nice bright orange sand patina highlighting the choice bits.

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  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Nice coin Z! You and Steve have the taller, leaner versions of Jupiter. The engraver of my piece decided to go short and stout, not only with the god, but with Victory and the eagle as well.
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Not boring - beautiful! I have two examples, but they are so poor I won't show them here.
     
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  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Eh...post them if you like. I've got a handful of less-than-F coins as well, which is what spurred me to get this one. I like the worn ones just as well since some of them have very interesting and complex field marks.
     
  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That Jupiter on Steve's coin has a great looking head, especially the hair and the beard. But what is up with that freakishly long index finger though :eek:.
     
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  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Looks like the engraver's tool slipped as he got to the end of the finger.

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  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    i also love the little Tinkerbell Victory you have on yours.
     
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  13. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Here's one from Antioch..... A100.jpg
     
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  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Another of my Fredericksburg coins was this Licinius from Alexandria.
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    It would be prettier without the green cover on the burgundy but I have not convinced myself I want to risk the removal. I got it partly because I have a similar Constantine. Alexandria had such a different style for much of the time the mint operated.
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  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    OK, but don't say I didn't warn you.
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    LICINIUS I AE2 Follis
    OBVERSE: IMP C VAL LICIN LICINIVS P F AVG, laureate head right
    REVERSE: IOVI CONSERVATORI, Jupiter standing left holding Victory on globe, crowning him with a wreath, & sceptre; eagle at foot left, A right, SMK in ex.
    Struck at Cyzicus 313-315 AD
    3.5g, 22 mm
    RIC VII 4
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    LICINIUS I AE2 Follis
    OBVERSE: IMP LIC LICINIVS P F AVG, laureate, draped & cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: IOVI CONSERVATORI, Jupiter standing facing, head left, chlamys hanging from left shoulder, holding Victory on globe & leaning on sceptre, eagle with wreath left, D to right, SIS in ex.
    Struck at Siscia 313-315 AD
    2.3g, 21mm
    RIC VI 230a
     
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  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I like the pied coin very much Doug! Don't clean it. Us collectors of ancients have it all over the collectors of moderns who only think they collect toned coins. :)

    I've seen enough LRB's now that I can spot the Alexandria style without seeing the MM - it is indeed distinctive and handsome. Nice coins!
     
  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Here is one of my less-than-FDC specimens, but I like the various marks in the right field...

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  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I do not recall seeing all the toned silver dollars when I was a kid. It is now a fad. I do know that the coins I still have from those days are darker now so I have to wonder how dark the high priced toners will get in another fifty years. I have ancient silver that may not have been cleaned since 'the day' and the color is black. I have ancient silver that was cleaned a few decades ago and now is toning naturally. I'm OK with either color but would not pay extra for a color that may not be here when my grandson is my age.

    Will slabs protect and prevent toning changes in fifty years? How do they know?
     
  19. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    great lookin' coin JA, fantastic details. here my licinius of the type.

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    very silvered...was it "reslivered" by someone?
     
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  20. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The appearance of my coins won't matter to me in 50 years. Perhaps they feel the same way.
     
  21. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    That's the most boring coin I've ever seen in my life... jk. ;)
    Very nice piece JA and all.
     
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