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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2631274, member: 56859"]Crawford calls it a lion, and CNG's catalogers do the same.</p><p><br /></p><p>From Crawford, who has a footnote specifying that it is <b>not</b> a hound:</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3">Victory in biga r., holding reins in l. hand and whip in r. hand; above, ROMA; below, man fighting lion*; in exergue, CN·DOM. Line border.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3">Reverse dies: [89].</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3">* Not hound, <i>contra</i> Babelon and Sydenham (see M. H. Crawford and R. Thomsen in M. Thompson, <i>The Agrinion Hoard</i>, 125); the type thus in no way refers to the exploits of Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus, Cos. 122, against King Bituitus (for dogs in battle see R. M. Cook, <i>Festschrift Rumpf</i>, 38).</span></p><p><br /></p><p>However, there must be more recent scholarship on the issue because CNG (whose catalogers keep abreast of changes) attributes the coin to Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus while Crawford says it is someone else. From Crawford:</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3">Since this issue and no. 285 are separated by only a decade, it is difcfi ult to regard both moneyers as Domitii Ahenobarbi in the same line of descent. This moneyer is perhaps a Cn. Domitius Calvinus or a Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus from a collateral branch of the family; for second-century Calvini note the commander in Liguria (Frontinus, <i>Strat</i>. iii, 2, 1 with A. E. Douglas, <i>Brutus</i>, p. 187), for collateral Aheno-barbi note the Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus of Livy xlii, 28, 13 (an <i>oppido adulescens</i> in 172 he can hardly be the Cos. 162; I owe this point to H. B. Mattingly) and the L. Domitius Cn.f. (Ahenobarbus) in the Senatus consultum de agro Pergameno.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000b3">For the wild-beast fight on the reverse see W. Kubitschek, <i>NZ</i> 1913, 228; the fight and the com-ear together seem to refer to the games and distributions of produce offered to the Roman people by an Aedile as a step to higher office (see P· 729).</span> </p><p><br /></p><p>Maybe [USER=76111]@Carthago[/USER] or [USER=19615]@Volodya[/USER] can offer a more educated opinion on these matters.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2631274, member: 56859"]Crawford calls it a lion, and CNG's catalogers do the same. From Crawford, who has a footnote specifying that it is [B]not[/B] a hound: [COLOR=#0000b3]Victory in biga r., holding reins in l. hand and whip in r. hand; above, ROMA; below, man fighting lion*; in exergue, CN·DOM. Line border. Reverse dies: [89]. * Not hound, [I]contra[/I] Babelon and Sydenham (see M. H. Crawford and R. Thomsen in M. Thompson, [I]The Agrinion Hoard[/I], 125); the type thus in no way refers to the exploits of Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus, Cos. 122, against King Bituitus (for dogs in battle see R. M. Cook, [I]Festschrift Rumpf[/I], 38).[/COLOR] However, there must be more recent scholarship on the issue because CNG (whose catalogers keep abreast of changes) attributes the coin to Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus while Crawford says it is someone else. From Crawford: [COLOR=#0000b3]Since this issue and no. 285 are separated by only a decade, it is difcfi ult to regard both moneyers as Domitii Ahenobarbi in the same line of descent. This moneyer is perhaps a Cn. Domitius Calvinus or a Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus from a collateral branch of the family; for second-century Calvini note the commander in Liguria (Frontinus, [I]Strat[/I]. iii, 2, 1 with A. E. Douglas, [I]Brutus[/I], p. 187), for collateral Aheno-barbi note the Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus of Livy xlii, 28, 13 (an [I]oppido adulescens[/I] in 172 he can hardly be the Cos. 162; I owe this point to H. B. Mattingly) and the L. Domitius Cn.f. (Ahenobarbus) in the Senatus consultum de agro Pergameno. For the wild-beast fight on the reverse see W. Kubitschek, [I]NZ[/I] 1913, 228; the fight and the com-ear together seem to refer to the games and distributions of produce offered to the Roman people by an Aedile as a step to higher office (see P· 729).[/COLOR] Maybe [USER=76111]@Carthago[/USER] or [USER=19615]@Volodya[/USER] can offer a more educated opinion on these matters.[/QUOTE]
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