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<p>[QUOTE="Sallent, post: 2712521, member: 76194"]Yuck, you weren't even kidding, they are using modern grades for ancient coins. What a joke! Shame on ICG for such disreputable practices.</p><p><br /></p><p>Tell me this, on an ancient coin with many different surviving die types, how do you compare the differences in the hand engraved dies for that type, plus the die wear, flan imperfections, difference in strike force, diffeeence in centering, to determine whether a particular ancient coin is MS-61 vs. MS-62 or MS-63? The fact is, you can't! They are pulling those grades out of their rear ends.</p><p><br /></p><p>And how do you determine a VF-40 vs an AU-50 on ancient coins with less than 30 or 40 surviving examples? That's right, you can't either.</p><p><br /></p><p>Shame on them. Look at this filth.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]612876[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]612877[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>What's next? MS-63+ or MS-63*? Or perhaps "First Strike" designation? While we are at it, why not assign a few "Proof" grades? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie96" alt=":vomit:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sallent, post: 2712521, member: 76194"]Yuck, you weren't even kidding, they are using modern grades for ancient coins. What a joke! Shame on ICG for such disreputable practices. Tell me this, on an ancient coin with many different surviving die types, how do you compare the differences in the hand engraved dies for that type, plus the die wear, flan imperfections, difference in strike force, diffeeence in centering, to determine whether a particular ancient coin is MS-61 vs. MS-62 or MS-63? The fact is, you can't! They are pulling those grades out of their rear ends. And how do you determine a VF-40 vs an AU-50 on ancient coins with less than 30 or 40 surviving examples? That's right, you can't either. Shame on them. Look at this filth. [ATTACH=full]612876[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]612877[/ATTACH] What's next? MS-63+ or MS-63*? Or perhaps "First Strike" designation? While we are at it, why not assign a few "Proof" grades? :vomit:[/QUOTE]
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