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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1839721, member: 19463"]Thanks zumbly! This is one of the little miracles of the information age.... very little.</p><p><br /></p><p>I was online watching the Pecunium sale close because there were a couple of lots I wanted for a price but both closed over twice what they stood at a day before. I will be interested in seeing which of you bought 'my' coins. I did not see the croc or the Perseus as worth the realization. On the latter, I only recognize two grades: Better than Steve's and Not Better than Steve's. More spectacular this week was a coin of Constantine I that closed on eBay at something like $136. I thought I was being wild and crazy thinking it worth half that. I do wonder who bought it. As I recall management does not want us discussing specific sales but, in general, European auctions bring more than I am willing to pay for mediocre coins. I understand and even occasionally find myself paying a high price for something very special but the fact that one Constantine is worth $136 does not mean that another in equal condition is worth even $13. </p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding crocs: the last one I bought was returned as artificially repatinated. If this sort of thing bothers you be careful buying pretty light green croc coins from European dealers. Currently the fakes Yahoo discussion list is all in a tizzy over some of the back of the catalog groups of sestertii in the upcoming Triton sale. To some of these guys a coin fully stripped and retoned to an even black is just as bad as a cast fake. If you see a pot of many bronzes all the same color and all perfectly smooth, you should suspect full cleaning and chemical retoning. I can't say I call it wrong. I would prefer all sellers marked such lots as 'processed' but the fact remains that millions of ancients come out of the ground looking bad and the professional processors can turn them into something not hard to look at. I continue to believe the old saying: "All ancients have been cleaned; those with an inch of dirt on them used to have two inches." The hoards processed by the British Museum have a certain look; I suspect professionals in this field are able to tell you at a glance what was done and perhaps who did it to many coins. I am much more accepting of professionally cleaned and retoned coins than the purists but I am not as forgiving of harshly abused coins. While I do not have a place in my collection for ten identical (or 100!) coins, I suspect we all will be seeing these coins offered singly by their buyers so I do have interest in the hammer prices of some of these lots. </p><p><br /></p><p>I did not see the Roma croc but am now really curious. Let us all root for superb postal service.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1839721, member: 19463"]Thanks zumbly! This is one of the little miracles of the information age.... very little. I was online watching the Pecunium sale close because there were a couple of lots I wanted for a price but both closed over twice what they stood at a day before. I will be interested in seeing which of you bought 'my' coins. I did not see the croc or the Perseus as worth the realization. On the latter, I only recognize two grades: Better than Steve's and Not Better than Steve's. More spectacular this week was a coin of Constantine I that closed on eBay at something like $136. I thought I was being wild and crazy thinking it worth half that. I do wonder who bought it. As I recall management does not want us discussing specific sales but, in general, European auctions bring more than I am willing to pay for mediocre coins. I understand and even occasionally find myself paying a high price for something very special but the fact that one Constantine is worth $136 does not mean that another in equal condition is worth even $13. Regarding crocs: the last one I bought was returned as artificially repatinated. If this sort of thing bothers you be careful buying pretty light green croc coins from European dealers. Currently the fakes Yahoo discussion list is all in a tizzy over some of the back of the catalog groups of sestertii in the upcoming Triton sale. To some of these guys a coin fully stripped and retoned to an even black is just as bad as a cast fake. If you see a pot of many bronzes all the same color and all perfectly smooth, you should suspect full cleaning and chemical retoning. I can't say I call it wrong. I would prefer all sellers marked such lots as 'processed' but the fact remains that millions of ancients come out of the ground looking bad and the professional processors can turn them into something not hard to look at. I continue to believe the old saying: "All ancients have been cleaned; those with an inch of dirt on them used to have two inches." The hoards processed by the British Museum have a certain look; I suspect professionals in this field are able to tell you at a glance what was done and perhaps who did it to many coins. I am much more accepting of professionally cleaned and retoned coins than the purists but I am not as forgiving of harshly abused coins. While I do not have a place in my collection for ten identical (or 100!) coins, I suspect we all will be seeing these coins offered singly by their buyers so I do have interest in the hammer prices of some of these lots. I did not see the Roma croc but am now really curious. Let us all root for superb postal service.[/QUOTE]
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