Ancients- Different families and Dynasties

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  1. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    I'm looking for a source of what Roman Imperial rulers belong to what family and dynasty and so on. Such as Constantine Family, Valen Family, Gallic Rulers and so on. Can anyone help?
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  3. chrsmat71

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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That may prove somewhat difficult since many were adopted into the previous Imperial family. However, in ancient Rome, a gens, plural gentes, was a family consisting of all those individuals who shared the same nomen and claimed descent from a common ancestor. A branch of a gens was called a stirps (plural stirpes). The gens was an important social structure at Rome and throughout Italy during the period of the Roman Republic. Here is a link which may help somewhat:
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  5. CoinBlazer

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    Yes this is helpful, I thought I would enjoy collecting by gens, considering that each gen had its own moral belief and cultural considerations
  6. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    There are really only a handful of dynasties that were substantive:
    - The Julians
    - The Claudians
    - The Flavians
    - The Nerva-Antonines (All distant blood relatives with Matidia and Faustina I as the backbone)
    - The Severans
    - The Valerians (Licinius gens)
    - The Maximian/Constantine/Licinius family
    - The Valentinian/Theodosian dynasty
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    There are many Gens as you can see from the link I sent. But it would be an interesting collection to have a representative coin from each.
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  8. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Was Gens only calculated up until the Imperatorial period, does it extend into the Imperial age?
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Yes, it extended throughout all of Roman history.
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    In all honesty, the best thing for you to do is to take Finn's dynasty list and a list of the rulers and see if you can't make the chart you want 'your way'. Look up each person on Wikipedia and read for how that person came to power and decide whether they belong to a dynasty or not. Finn separates Julians and Claudians but many lump hem into Julio-Claudians. Decide how you feel about this matter. Decide how you feel about adoptions real or imagined (Septimius Severus claimed to have been 'adopted' into the Antonines and issued some coins so marked but the only people who believed that one were those who wanted to live longer). History used to be a matter of memorizing lists but today we place more emphasis on understanding concepts. I ask a lot out of people who are glad I am not a teacher.

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  11. CoinBlazer

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    I will be ordering the book this weekend so thank you!
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