Ancients - Black Sea Challenge

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  1. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I can contribute only a little to this Black Sea challenge:

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    BLACK SEA AREA
    THRACE, Apollonia Pontika
    AR Reduced Drachm

    450-400 B.C.


    2.86 grams, 13 to 14 mm
    Obv: Anchor with crayfish to right, A to left
    Rev: Gorgoneion (Gorgon) with extended tongue
    Grade: a gF coin with nice old toning with claims to VF with the Gorgon reverse struck off center
    Other: Similar to Sear 1655. From Fairchester Numismatic Properties, Vincent Blume, August 2013.
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Good thinkin, Collect89

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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    If we're going to circle the Black Sea, this is going to be a long thread. Not that there's anything wrong with that :D

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    THRACE, Apollonia Pontika
    Mid-late 4th century BC

    AR drachm, 10 mm, 3.2 gm
    Obv: Facing gorgoneion
    Rev: Upright anchor; A to left, crayfish to right
    Ref: Topalov, Apollonia p. 348, 11
     
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  5. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Of course a Black Sea challenge would be incomplete without a fake:

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    BLACK SEA AREA
    THRACE, Mesembria
    AR Diobol
    450-350 B.C.
    1.14 grams, 10 mm
    Obv: Crested helmet facing
    Rev: M E T A in the four quarters of a radiate wheel.
    Grade: EF POS. Obverse perfectly centered & detailed. Reverse shows all details and is slightly off center.
    Other: Fake & returned to seller August 2013.
     
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  6. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Dislike the fake, but appreciate the edumacation.
     
  7. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    The Black Sea laps at Bulgaria, Turkey, Georgia, Russia also. I have one from Amisos also - only bought it because I like the design of it. But it is not imaged.
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    APOLLONIA PONTICA AR Drachm
    OBVERSE: Gorgoneian facing with snakes for hair and a protruding tongue
    REVERSE: An anchor flanked by letter A and a crayfish, which represents the minting city of Apollonia, the major fifth century BC Greek colony on the west coast of the Black Sea, modern Sozopol in Bulgaria
    Struck at Apollonia 450-400 BC
    3.13g, 14-15mm
    BMC IX, Black Sea 150-151
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    THRACE AE-14
    OBVERSE: Crested Corinthian helmet facing
    REVERSE: META between four spokes of wheel
    Struck at Mesembria 400-350BC
    1.80g, 14.35mm
    SNGBMC 274
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    How about a Roman Provincial from that region:
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    SEPTIMIUS SEVERUS AE27
    OBVERSE: AV K L CEP CEVHPOC, laureate and cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: OVLPIANWN AGXIALEWN, city gate, flanked by two battlemented towers, four arches on wall; N in ex.
    Struck at Anchialus, Thrace, 193-211 AD
    27mm
    Varbanov 205
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Here's one from Heraclea Pontica in Bithynia (modern day Karadeniz Ereğli, in the Zonguldak Province of Turkey) on the southern shores of the Black Sea. The city was sacked and destroyed by the Romans during the Mithridatic Wars.

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    BITHYNIA, Heraclea Pontica
    Circa 250 - 200 BC(?)
    Æ (3.35g, 18mm)
    Stancomb, Autonomous 7a, dies A2/– (unlisted rev. die); SNG BM Black Sea 1631; HGC 7, 489.
    O: Head of Heracles right, wearing lion skin.
    R: HRAKLEWTAN, Lion right; monogram above, facing boukranion between forelegs, club below.
    Ex Ronald J. Hansen Collection
     
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  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Odessos is on the Black Sea, western coast.

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    THRACE, Odessos. Circa 125-70 BC
    AR tetradrachm, 32mm, 16.70 g, 12h
    In the name and type of Alexander III of Macedon
    Obv: Head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin
    Rev: Zeus Aëtophoros seated left; ΔH above knee, monogram below throne
    Ref: Price 1180; Callataÿ group 1, dies (D2/R3); Topalov, Odesos 67
     
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  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => according to David Sear, I've got myself an authentic example ...


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  14. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Very nice coins. One day I'll get some Greek coins.
     
  15. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Here is my Odessos coin:
    Pontic Tet Collage.jpg THRACE Odessos
    Pontic Kingdom
    Mithradates VI (The Great)
    AR Tetradrachm
    83 – 82 B.C.


    15.97 gms, 27 mm
    Obv: Portrait of Mithradates as Alexander III as Hercules.
    Rev: Zeus seated on throne holding eagle on outstretched arm. ΛA monogram below arm and partially obscured monogram OΔH (Odessus) in exergue. BAΣIΛΕΩΣ AΛEΞNΔΡOY.
    Grade: aVF with good centering and strike. Nicely toned good silver.
    Other: This Odessus coin type was minted in between 125-70 B.C. This particular coin may have been struck 83-82 B.C. However, it is a point of speculation whether it was minted previous to the second Mithridatic War or during it to finance the battle. Price 1191. Ex Harlan J Berk, Ltd., Dec 2013.
     
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  16. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Nice coins all! Sadly I have none from the Black Sea area, so keep posting!
     
  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Bithynia, Kalchedon AR Siglos
    circa 340-320 BC
    Diameter: 17 mm
    Weight: 5.31 grams
    Obverse: KALC (KALX) ... Bull standing on grain ear
    Reverse: "mill-sail" incuse
    Reference: SNG Cop 348



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  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Istrus, Moesia

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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thrace, Byzantion

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    => ummmm, hopefully those last few examples are legit? (Basically, I was lookin' at an old ancient Black Sea map and then finding a few choice coins from my collection (I like this ... thanks, fun thread))
     
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  20. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    At one time none of us did. In fact I owned none until after I visited the Black Sea. It is one of the most amazing "lakes" ever. There are even intact Roman era shipwrecks in deep water - so dark and free of micro-organisms that they even still have the top masts. I toured through some of the archaeological digs in Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi(ancient Tyra) as recently as 2008. Was planning to go to Kherson just this month until all the unrest in Crimea and E. Ukraine postponed our trip.
     
  21. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Here is a batch that is currently for sale. It apparently includes some left head inverted, left head not-inverted, eagle to right, and eagle to left examples. If anyone is interested, I'll send you the link.

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