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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2640825, member: 56859"]I have a few things to toss into this thread <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>First, not a Black Sea coin but something which brings me one coin away from completing a denomination set of Klazomenai archaic silver winged boar coins. What the denominations should be called is speculative and there is not agreement in archives and in new listings. The largest denomination is sometimes called a drachm and sometimes a didrachm. The drachm (or didrachm) weight ranges from ~6.5-6.9 gm. Other denominations include hemidrachm (check!), diobol (check! check!), obol (need!), and tetartemorion (check!).</p><p><br /></p><p>I've been hunting for one for three years. Several have come to market during that time. Most cost more than I wanted to pay, some considerably more but the price was commensurate with their much better condition. I didn't have to have an EF example and this one came up at the right time and hammered for the right amount. The new leader of my silver Pigasus squad arrived this afternoon <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]582572[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>IONIA, Klazomenai</b></p><p>498-494 BCE</p><p>AR drachm, 6.77 gm</p><p>Obv: forepart of winged boar right</p><p>Rev: incuse square, somewhat quadripartite</p><p>Ref: Rosen 563; Jameson 1492; Asyut 615; Traité II 487; SNG Copenhagen 1-2)</p><p><i>ex NFA MBS (18 October 1990), part of lot 310</i></p><p><br /></p><p>...</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the OP theme, I have two common Black Sea Aegis/Nike bronzes. It's awfully tempting to hunt for one from each issuing city and I'll probably keep a casual eye out for the rest. There is just no way I can hope to match Steve's awesome Laodikeia though!</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2Fmedia%2Fae43f8_a6814a7b018d4421b7bdd7bcdaaa5407.jpg%2Fv1%2Ffill%2Fw_1000%2Ch_625%2Cal_c%2Cq_90%2Fae43f8_a6814a7b018d4421b7bdd7bcdaaa5407.jpg&hash=d8fa993fa77681d4b89ff333f8d45892" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>PONTOS, Amisos</b></p><p>85-65 BCE, time of Mithradates VI Eupator</p><p>AE 22 mm, 7 gm</p><p>Obv: Aegis facing</p><p>Rev: AMI-ΣOY; Nike advancing right with shouldered palm branch; monograms flanking</p><p>Ref: SNG BM Black Sea 1177-1191; HGC 7, 242</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/amastrisaegis-rt-jpg.496065/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>PAPHLAGONIA, Amastris</b></p><p>85-65 BCE</p><p>AE, 23 mm</p><p>Obv: facing gorgoneion in Aegis</p><p>Rev: AMAΣ-TPEΩN; Nike advancing right, holding palm frond</p><p>Ref: Lindgren 78; BMC 85, 10</p><p><i>I bought this one because I was at a coin show and it is hard to refrain from purchasing stuff, and it was very cheap <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></i></p><p><br /></p><p>...</p><p><br /></p><p>Steve also called for the decapitation parade, so here are mine... all Amisos <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie10" alt=":oops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. I wanted one badly because everyone was showing theirs at the time and it's a great story coin. I bought one with a great reverse and a month or two later found a corroded or encrusted example at a local jewelry store (not set in a bezel). It cleaned up amazingly well (second coin below). At some point in the last year or so I bid on a third example. It was going cheaply and I that darned bid finger had a mind of its own <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. I really should sell or trade one of them.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/pontosamisosbeheadedmedusa-med-jpg.313943/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252Fproxy.php%2525253Fimage%2525253Dhttp%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%252525252Fmedia%252525252Fae43f8_ed6209db5c094d73bfec979bc4c4f097.jpg_srb_p_850_418_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srb%25252526hash%2525253D496041e5b0be41de3ed4a81421402124%252526hash%25253D4020f17f0d8cab366843ba1e5e86939b%2526hash%253De1c26dea74a7668749e63add9dfcd811%26hash%3D2590c95379f261fb4ed2e908de4a2b5c&hash=398444214131e8cb8122e2af74975229" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/pontos-perseus-medusa-3-jpg.535786/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>PONTOS, Amisos</b></p><p>85-65 BCE, time of Mithradates VI Eupator</p><p>AE, all are ~27-29 mm</p><p>Obv: helmeted head of Athena right; helmet decorated with griffin</p><p>Rev: AMIΣOY; Perseus standing facing, holding harpa and head of Medusa, Medusa's body at his feet, blood gushing from the neck[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2640825, member: 56859"]I have a few things to toss into this thread :) First, not a Black Sea coin but something which brings me one coin away from completing a denomination set of Klazomenai archaic silver winged boar coins. What the denominations should be called is speculative and there is not agreement in archives and in new listings. The largest denomination is sometimes called a drachm and sometimes a didrachm. The drachm (or didrachm) weight ranges from ~6.5-6.9 gm. Other denominations include hemidrachm (check!), diobol (check! check!), obol (need!), and tetartemorion (check!). I've been hunting for one for three years. Several have come to market during that time. Most cost more than I wanted to pay, some considerably more but the price was commensurate with their much better condition. I didn't have to have an EF example and this one came up at the right time and hammered for the right amount. The new leader of my silver Pigasus squad arrived this afternoon :) [ATTACH=full]582572[/ATTACH] [B]IONIA, Klazomenai[/B] 498-494 BCE AR drachm, 6.77 gm Obv: forepart of winged boar right Rev: incuse square, somewhat quadripartite Ref: Rosen 563; Jameson 1492; Asyut 615; Traité II 487; SNG Copenhagen 1-2) [I]ex NFA MBS (18 October 1990), part of lot 310[/I] ... As for the OP theme, I have two common Black Sea Aegis/Nike bronzes. It's awfully tempting to hunt for one from each issuing city and I'll probably keep a casual eye out for the rest. There is just no way I can hope to match Steve's awesome Laodikeia though! [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.wixstatic.com%2Fmedia%2Fae43f8_a6814a7b018d4421b7bdd7bcdaaa5407.jpg%2Fv1%2Ffill%2Fw_1000%2Ch_625%2Cal_c%2Cq_90%2Fae43f8_a6814a7b018d4421b7bdd7bcdaaa5407.jpg&hash=d8fa993fa77681d4b89ff333f8d45892[/IMG] [B]PONTOS, Amisos[/B] 85-65 BCE, time of Mithradates VI Eupator AE 22 mm, 7 gm Obv: Aegis facing Rev: AMI-ΣOY; Nike advancing right with shouldered palm branch; monograms flanking Ref: SNG BM Black Sea 1177-1191; HGC 7, 242 [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/amastrisaegis-rt-jpg.496065/[/IMG] [B]PAPHLAGONIA, Amastris[/B] 85-65 BCE AE, 23 mm Obv: facing gorgoneion in Aegis Rev: AMAΣ-TPEΩN; Nike advancing right, holding palm frond Ref: Lindgren 78; BMC 85, 10 [I]I bought this one because I was at a coin show and it is hard to refrain from purchasing stuff, and it was very cheap :D[/I] ... Steve also called for the decapitation parade, so here are mine... all Amisos :oops:. I wanted one badly because everyone was showing theirs at the time and it's a great story coin. I bought one with a great reverse and a month or two later found a corroded or encrusted example at a local jewelry store (not set in a bezel). It cleaned up amazingly well (second coin below). At some point in the last year or so I bid on a third example. It was going cheaply and I that darned bid finger had a mind of its own :D. I really should sell or trade one of them. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/pontosamisosbeheadedmedusa-med-jpg.313943/[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252Fproxy.php%2525253Fimage%2525253Dhttp%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fstatic.wixstatic.com%252525252Fmedia%252525252Fae43f8_ed6209db5c094d73bfec979bc4c4f097.jpg_srb_p_850_418_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srb%25252526hash%2525253D496041e5b0be41de3ed4a81421402124%252526hash%25253D4020f17f0d8cab366843ba1e5e86939b%2526hash%253De1c26dea74a7668749e63add9dfcd811%26hash%3D2590c95379f261fb4ed2e908de4a2b5c&hash=398444214131e8cb8122e2af74975229[/IMG] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/pontos-perseus-medusa-3-jpg.535786/[/IMG] [B]PONTOS, Amisos[/B] 85-65 BCE, time of Mithradates VI Eupator AE, all are ~27-29 mm Obv: helmeted head of Athena right; helmet decorated with griffin Rev: AMIΣOY; Perseus standing facing, holding harpa and head of Medusa, Medusa's body at his feet, blood gushing from the neck[/QUOTE]
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