Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Ancients: Aurelian the bodybuilder
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1737360, member: 19463"]Long necks were considered regal in several periods of history. Steve's coin also is an interesting (to me) example of another point. The reverse legend is RESTITVTORBIS which is short for RESTITVTOR ORBIS. They exist spelled out but more are abbreviated. The oddity comes in the spacing. This is unusual with RESTITVTO RBIS. This highlights the fact that the OR is used by both words. RESTITVT ORBIS would make it more obvious that the OR is removed from the first word but I don't have one of these to show. Do you? Anyone? Harder to read is RESTITVTOR BIS since my modern eye feels it used the OR on the first word so I'm looking for a meaning for BIS without the OR. I believe the problem here is I am using those modern 'eyes' while the dies were cut in a culture that did not attach importance to word spacing to the level we do. Beginning Latin teaches that the Romans did not space words but that is a bit of an overstatement if you look at the number of coins that do break legends at word boundaries. Certainly they did not make the big thing of it we do. </p><p><br /></p><p>Bis is Latin for twice. When I see RESTITVTOR BIS I want to read 'Restorer for the second time' rather than 'Restorer of the World'. What I would love to know is if the man on the street in the 270's would have seen this double meaning or if that is a fabrication of the modern imagination. Many collectors of ancient coins will never care about such questions but the material is there for those who decide to study whys and hows rather than just fill holes in an album. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]273089.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]273090.vB[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1737360, member: 19463"]Long necks were considered regal in several periods of history. Steve's coin also is an interesting (to me) example of another point. The reverse legend is RESTITVTORBIS which is short for RESTITVTOR ORBIS. They exist spelled out but more are abbreviated. The oddity comes in the spacing. This is unusual with RESTITVTO RBIS. This highlights the fact that the OR is used by both words. RESTITVT ORBIS would make it more obvious that the OR is removed from the first word but I don't have one of these to show. Do you? Anyone? Harder to read is RESTITVTOR BIS since my modern eye feels it used the OR on the first word so I'm looking for a meaning for BIS without the OR. I believe the problem here is I am using those modern 'eyes' while the dies were cut in a culture that did not attach importance to word spacing to the level we do. Beginning Latin teaches that the Romans did not space words but that is a bit of an overstatement if you look at the number of coins that do break legends at word boundaries. Certainly they did not make the big thing of it we do. Bis is Latin for twice. When I see RESTITVTOR BIS I want to read 'Restorer for the second time' rather than 'Restorer of the World'. What I would love to know is if the man on the street in the 270's would have seen this double meaning or if that is a fabrication of the modern imagination. Many collectors of ancient coins will never care about such questions but the material is there for those who decide to study whys and hows rather than just fill holes in an album. [ATTACH]273089.vB[/ATTACH][ATTACH]273090.vB[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Ancients: Aurelian the bodybuilder
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...