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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 1688713, member: 19463&quot;]<span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><br /></span></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><span style="color: #0000ff"><br /></span></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><span style="color: #0000ff"></span><span style="color: #000000">I only disagree with some of the statements you made so I only quote above the pertinent parts.&nbsp; </span></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><span style="color: #000000">IMHO the coin is not listed in LRBC but I&#039;ll leave this to be determined by those more in love with that reference than I.&nbsp;&nbsp; LRBC 467 has code c meaning there is a club to be found but they are light on details.&nbsp; RIC 316 requires obverse J16</span><span style="color: #0000ff"> or </span></font></font><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial">DN</font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial">FL</font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"> CL IVLIA-NVS PF AVG but I see this as the more common J8 or </font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial">DN</font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial">FL</font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"> CL IVLI-ANVS PF AVG.&nbsp; Personally I consider making the separation between RIC 315 and 316 on obverse legend spacing is borderline ridiculous but RIC authors and I have many issues bigger than this one.&nbsp; Both, however, require a club following the PCON which I do not see.&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps the club is lost under the sand?&nbsp; I think not.&nbsp; RIC 313 has the PCON in exergue but shows a wreath above the exergual line on the right hand side of the middle.&nbsp; Your coin has a round thing following the PVB which I suspect is the wreath that R</font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial">IC noted.&nbsp; (So does RIC 314 but that requires the J16 obverse legend and we covered that.)&nbsp;&nbsp; Let me point out that RIC used a fancy engraving of a wreath here that was used many places when the book was typeset and the exact form of the wreath varies here and there as would the exact placement since their code only separates the reverse into three sections.&nbsp; If that skinny thing is a wreath, I might have put in a note that it followed the PVB rather than the generic code for upper right (an inverted T separates the field into three parts) but they did it their way.&nbsp; LRBC lacks a listing with a code for wreath on page 106 where it should be near the club note for 467 mentioned above.&nbsp; </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"></font><font face="Arial"><font size="3"></font></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><font size="3">Lets also note that RIC lists all 5 of the wreath coins they quote as being in collections other than the British Museum.&nbsp; The BM lacking something is often a sign that it is not common.&nbsp; I&#039;ll suggest you search out images of RIC 313&nbsp; to see what the wreath looks like on that style.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know anything beyond the RIC listing and I don&#039;t have one.&nbsp; </font></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><font size="3">Here is a club coin:</font></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><font size="3"></font></font><a href="http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=470681" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=470681" rel="nofollow">http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=470681</a></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><font size="3">Here is a 314 wreath an J16 legend:</font></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><font size="3"></font></font></span><a href="http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=55438" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=55438" rel="nofollow">http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=55438</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Now I told you that your coin was not matched in the British Museum as of 1981 when RIC was issued and that I failed to find a 313 on acsearch.&nbsp; Wildwinds has a club coin but no wreath of either number.&nbsp; You should send Dane a photo of your coin with a note explaining why she should put it on Wildwinds.&nbsp; You should continue to be happy to have that coin which is not bad as just a generic Julian bull but is really special as an R3 that seems actually to deserve that rating.&nbsp; You should consider giving me that coin for my birthday next month (mail now, service from Canada is terrible at the moment).&nbsp; Finally you should be very careful not take the coin outside when it is cold.&nbsp; There is another thread on this site where a guy proposes cleaning coins by exposing coins to a temperature shock not all that far removed from what you get when you open your front door.&nbsp; Protect this coin.&nbsp; Thanks for sharing it.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I thought you didn&#039;t collect Roman???</p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><span style="color: #0000ff"><br /></span></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><span style="color: #0000ff"><br /></span></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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