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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1823669, member: 19463"]I like to think that our young numismatists will find something better to do with their lives than undertake a completely thankless and impossible task:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Rarity has next to nothing to do with value/market price. Condition minutiae are much more important. Many of our high value coins are quite common (Owls, Tribute Pennies). Most of us with any large number of coins probably have one that is the only survivor from that die set but no one cares. There are about 80 known EID MAR denarii of which the worst is worth much more than the sum of my possibly unique coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>2. An ancient book with Red Book completeness, prices compiled from sales or reasonable estimates in 5 grades with all known varieties as minute as some of our Red Book varieties (1960 small and large date, close and wide AM, a plethora of overdates or over mintmarks) would (just a guess here) be something between 10 and 100 feet thick and have to sell for at least $10,000. Demand would be low.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. No one actually tries to assemble a complete set after they pass the first beginner stage. Few agree on what a complete set is. There are some who consider all coins of one emperor to be the same for their purposes and would be happy with a Red Book ignoring reverses. David Vagi came close to that when he only listed rare types separately from the ordinary which he lumped together. How did that go over? He was not wrong when it came to market pricing but it was not what the book market really wanted to hear. They want catalog numbers. Disagree?</p><p><br /></p><p>4. I like to think that the authors of RIC would not have presented rarity quite the way they did if they understood how it would be abused. It will be interesting to see how this is handled if there ever is a new RIC edition (not just a reprint).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1823669, member: 19463"]I like to think that our young numismatists will find something better to do with their lives than undertake a completely thankless and impossible task: 1. Rarity has next to nothing to do with value/market price. Condition minutiae are much more important. Many of our high value coins are quite common (Owls, Tribute Pennies). Most of us with any large number of coins probably have one that is the only survivor from that die set but no one cares. There are about 80 known EID MAR denarii of which the worst is worth much more than the sum of my possibly unique coins. 2. An ancient book with Red Book completeness, prices compiled from sales or reasonable estimates in 5 grades with all known varieties as minute as some of our Red Book varieties (1960 small and large date, close and wide AM, a plethora of overdates or over mintmarks) would (just a guess here) be something between 10 and 100 feet thick and have to sell for at least $10,000. Demand would be low. 3. No one actually tries to assemble a complete set after they pass the first beginner stage. Few agree on what a complete set is. There are some who consider all coins of one emperor to be the same for their purposes and would be happy with a Red Book ignoring reverses. David Vagi came close to that when he only listed rare types separately from the ordinary which he lumped together. How did that go over? He was not wrong when it came to market pricing but it was not what the book market really wanted to hear. They want catalog numbers. Disagree? 4. I like to think that the authors of RIC would not have presented rarity quite the way they did if they understood how it would be abused. It will be interesting to see how this is handled if there ever is a new RIC edition (not just a reprint).[/QUOTE]
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