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Message:: [QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1821253, member: 19463"]I can not imagine how the seller could have done more to suggest you not bid except to have changed the order of the listing to mention the Romans first.  Such lots should be bought by people who have taken the opportunity to examine them in person and will usually sell to someone who has unless there is nothing of merit there.  If there were sleepers there, you would have been outbid.  Not knowing how much you paid places us at a disadvantage but I do believe you need to show us the specific coins mentioned (particularly the Athens and the Pompey)before saying you were burned.  I can not imagine bidding on a lot described as "Several pieces with rough or tooled surfaces."  I assume the Pompey was tooled.  Many are. The aftercast Paduan would probably bring $30 most places and $60 from a big seller.  I have the Lawrence catalog of these but it is not illustrated.  Many old medals are termed Paduans even though there were other medalists than Cavino living in other cities making them to fill the needs of the market of their day.  The lot has all the marks of the remainders of a 1960's grandpa's holdings after they separately lotted any coins worth owning.  We all have junk accumulated over the years by being silly.  Now you do, too.  Maybe we should all trade unseen garbage lots but the only winner there would be the Post Office.[/QUOTE]