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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1794724, member: 19463"]Yes, I'm just a nasty old man trying to get you to spend money on coins that deserve their price rather than randomly. This issue is terribly hard to find in perfect shape so we have to decide which of the many flaws we want to overlook. I find the halves most interesting since the mint did not use a consistent die axis alignment. I do not have the most rare and least interesting one where the reverse consists of the top of the tree and no crocodile. Note that both of Martin's coins have the same end of the croc but opposite rulers. I liked these coins enough to give them a page of their own but rather than making it mostly about the several sub-types available (all but one of the coins shown above in this thread are the last type with PP on the obverse) I aimed the page at pointing out the impossibility of grading the things with a couple letters. A paragraph sometimes has trouble being fair to these coins. </p><p> </p><p>Cucumbor's example is a beauty but some people would not have it because it shows the pre-striking flan adjustment scratches common on the coins of the last couple sub-types. In particular it has a really nice chain which is the croc equivalent of full steps on Jefferson nickels, full horns on Buffalos or full heads on Standing Liberty quarters (sorry, Canadians, I do not know examples in your series). The croc is slightly smaller in the earlier sub-types so it is easier to get one with full snout but the later coins had more die detail in the croc skin so coins like Cucumbor's tend to look better even though the snout is right up to the edge of the flan. What coin is best for the collector who wants just one? I don't know, I don't believe in 'just one' collecting so I'm not the one to ask. </p><p>My page (bet no one has read that one) and my family portrait are below. There are still a couple sub types I lack. I recently returned a beautiful coin (that is still for sale) that I decided was tooled and repatinated so be a little careful if spending good money on these. </p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/impossible.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/impossible.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/impossible.html</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]290214[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1794724, member: 19463"]Yes, I'm just a nasty old man trying to get you to spend money on coins that deserve their price rather than randomly. This issue is terribly hard to find in perfect shape so we have to decide which of the many flaws we want to overlook. I find the halves most interesting since the mint did not use a consistent die axis alignment. I do not have the most rare and least interesting one where the reverse consists of the top of the tree and no crocodile. Note that both of Martin's coins have the same end of the croc but opposite rulers. I liked these coins enough to give them a page of their own but rather than making it mostly about the several sub-types available (all but one of the coins shown above in this thread are the last type with PP on the obverse) I aimed the page at pointing out the impossibility of grading the things with a couple letters. A paragraph sometimes has trouble being fair to these coins. Cucumbor's example is a beauty but some people would not have it because it shows the pre-striking flan adjustment scratches common on the coins of the last couple sub-types. In particular it has a really nice chain which is the croc equivalent of full steps on Jefferson nickels, full horns on Buffalos or full heads on Standing Liberty quarters (sorry, Canadians, I do not know examples in your series). The croc is slightly smaller in the earlier sub-types so it is easier to get one with full snout but the later coins had more die detail in the croc skin so coins like Cucumbor's tend to look better even though the snout is right up to the edge of the flan. What coin is best for the collector who wants just one? I don't know, I don't believe in 'just one' collecting so I'm not the one to ask. My page (bet no one has read that one) and my family portrait are below. There are still a couple sub types I lack. I recently returned a beautiful coin (that is still for sale) that I decided was tooled and repatinated so be a little careful if spending good money on these. [url]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/impossible.html[/url] [ATTACH=full]290214[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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