Ancient uncleaned coins

Sorry I missed this...

Where, what, how did I miss this thread???

Eng- That is really nice of you. Jw hit the nail on the head. Although I might be "relatively" young as compared to some other guys I don't think I can quite qualify as a YN. I have been somewhat collecting ancients since 1998(ish).

I would love to sit down and clean some coins, but I have many projects going on.

Noob Jr. is still a bit too young. I really don't think he will realize how cool the ancient coins are until he realizes what year it is today, and can do the math.

I think its a great idea. and thanks for including me.

 

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I think we should put stevex fake coin on the list, you my never know were it will show up...
at this time i have sent all the coins out, they weren't very good grade, i'm currently looking for some very good grade coins, anoob i'm going to find some and maybe you can do a video on cleaning them...

 

Sure, cool why not? Could be fun.

 

well, i got my coins from ENG...thanks ENG!! :hug:

one of eng's requests was before pics and attribution....so, here they are...






the coin on the right is almost for sure this...

julian ii
355-360ad
dn cl ivlian vs nob caes
spes rei pvblice

smts epsilon is ex.

ric viii thessalonica 216

i THINK the coin on the left may be a philip ii horse with rider revers, like this...



i don't think the greek coin can be cleaned more without stripping the patina, any one have suggestions?

more to come...

 

this one isn't cleanable either, but it is neat......






i'm pretty sure this is a byzantine class i follis, possibly Nicephorus iii, 11th century.

more tomorrow....nite nite all!

 

I believe you are correct with the Macedonia, Philip II, Horse with Rider.

 

I just got the coins in as well. I gave Eng a message about it and was waiting for his reply about it. One of them could use a touch-up cleaning but the others just won't improve because they're worn and already cleaned. He also threw in a rather nice Constantius Gallus coin. A big thanks to Eng!

I'm out of distilled water and won't get any for awhile until I go to the grocery store again.

 

Got the coins as well and waiting for a reply back. Kept 4 and gave the other 3 to my kid brother. I don't think any of them, except maybe one, can be improved by cleaning. But they are neat coins, and I thank eng for sending them. Among the coins I kept for myself were my first Roman Greek provincials, and one was of an emperor I didn't have before.

 

Sorry guy's i'm not the best on the computer, i thought i repleyed to your emails but i must of done something wrong... i thought the coins were better, so i hope to find some good ones for you, keep what you have and you don't need to send me anything, you will be the jw's and dougs of the hobbie some day. Keep up the good work..:thumb:

 

We have seen something important here when some of our younger members realize that some of the coins are not going to improve with more cleaning. Unfortunately too many uncleaned coins are actually uncleanable coins and were sold that way because they were not candidates for processing commercially. Certainly we find some good items in the lots and we gain experience in reading and identifying even the ugliest scraps of metal but it is important to develop a feel for when we should clean and when we should walk away (or give them to the kid brother - hopefully with the lesson that he shouldn't scrub them either).

 

here's a couple more i wanted to share that ENG sent me (thanks again ENG!), one of which i REALLY like....





the coin on the right is in pretty bad shape, but can see the prominant SC on the back. but look at the one on the left. all sort of cool countermarks...sorry my picture doesn't capture them well. on the obverse, there is an AVG (possibly AVC) at 3 o'clock, at 6 o'clock is what i think is a TICA. These two may indicate "tiberius agustus" or less likely (as I understant it) titus agustus....either way. neat. at 10 and 8 o'clock are roman helmets with dots, on the reverse is a dolphin! don't know what these mean exactly but may be associated with the region of moesia. here some interesting stuff on roman coin countermarks if interested....

http://www.romancoins.info/Countermarks.html

 

Well i think i learned something, you get what you pay for, so hope to find better uncleaned coins..

 

Wow thoes are bigger then the 3 i have

 

Wow, thank you so much for these coins! You already labeled them and identified them so you made it ez for me! My fav ought to be the Valentinian I AE3 soldier dragging captive. Thank you so much for getting us in to ancients:yes:

 

Id love some but have no ideal how to Clean them

 

Seriously, do not bother. I have not seen any really good "uncleaned" ancient in quite a while. Used to be there were so many flooding the marketplace they only cherrypicked larger, earlier, better coins and left lower grade, (vg-ish) large coins and high grade smaller coins to be sold in bulk. Nowadays, any F or better will get pulled and cleaned up. Almost all "uncleaned" coins is what we used to call "floor sweepings", coins not worth cleaning because it will always be low grade. They actually make more selling them "uncleaned" than they would cleaning them up, because of the thrill of the hunt.

If you wish to get into ancients cheaply, nice little late roman bronzes are abundant and cheap.

 

I'm in total agreement with medman.

 

Eng => you absolutely "ROCK" => that was a fantastic gesture to donate those coins to the youngins ....... you are a good soul, brother!!

:fro:

:thumb:

 

Yes, I agree. Sorry Eng I never meant your gesture wasn't a grand one. My post was more for those thinking of buying these instead of cleaned coins. Sorry if anyone took it any other way.

 

No worries my friends, I hope to spark something inside these young guys, gales. Our young people are our future, i'm 55 and the youngest one in my coin club, we need more youth, male and females.
We have a give away at the Puyallup fair, So. of Seattle every year, we see many kids come back year after year.
In the spring we have our PNNA show, Walt Ostromecki ( ANA Vice President)will come to help the kids, Scouts, do a treasure hunt, always trying to get these kids hooked on coins. Walt has a true vision for these kids.
Seeing how there's a lot of young Ancient collector's on the board is awesome, So that's why i want to share this with them...