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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 8249866, member: 85693"]Interesting piece. These sorts of things are hard to evaluate as there's no "official" template to determine authenticity, as with coins. Hallmarks can be a useful clue to figuring this stuff out, but a lot of old silver lacks such marks. </p><p><br /></p><p>It reminds of a rather spectacular deal on eBay from a few years ago, a Scottish Sterling Silver Quaich made by Wilson & Sharp, Edinburgh in 1900, mounted with a 1668 English silver sixpence of Charles II. Here's how I wrote it up for my records, since the seller's description was a bit bungled:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>eBay Title:</b> 1668 French Coin - Carolus II Serves As Bottom Of A Cup</p><p><b>Date Auction Ended</b>: May 08, 2016 , 9:20PM</p><p><b>Closing Price:</b> $ 10.51</p><p><b>eBay Description:</b> "Please look carefully at this item as I am not quite sure how to describe it. There is a well worn French coin acting as the bottom this cup that has some touchmarks but none that I am aware of, ie. I do not believe that the cup is sterling but it is likely that the coin is real. The touchmark for the maker is "W & L".</p><p><br /></p><p><b>My Description:</b> This is a Scottish quaich, a drinking vessel, made by Wilson & Sharp in Edinburgh in 1900. It is sterling silver. The coin is an English sixpence of King Charles II dated 1668. The maker mark is a "W & S." The hallmarks are as follows: thistle silver standard mark (indicates .925 sterling silver); castle (indicates Edinburgh manufacture) and a Gothic "t" (indicates 1900 manufacture date). </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1453155[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1453149[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1453152[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1453153[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1453154[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>As I know nothing about Scottish drinking vessels, silver doo-dads, hallmarks, etc., so it took some digging to figure this out. There's a lot of information on the Internet about such things, but it took some digging. </p><p><br /></p><p>I am ashamed to admit I have yet to drink a wee dram from the thing yet. According to my latest DNA results, I'm 32% Scottish (and 34% Irish, so drinking comes naturally to me). Someday, someday...<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie53" alt=":hungover:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 8249866, member: 85693"]Interesting piece. These sorts of things are hard to evaluate as there's no "official" template to determine authenticity, as with coins. Hallmarks can be a useful clue to figuring this stuff out, but a lot of old silver lacks such marks. It reminds of a rather spectacular deal on eBay from a few years ago, a Scottish Sterling Silver Quaich made by Wilson & Sharp, Edinburgh in 1900, mounted with a 1668 English silver sixpence of Charles II. Here's how I wrote it up for my records, since the seller's description was a bit bungled: [B]eBay Title:[/B] 1668 French Coin - Carolus II Serves As Bottom Of A Cup [B]Date Auction Ended[/B]: May 08, 2016 , 9:20PM [B]Closing Price:[/B] $ 10.51 [B]eBay Description:[/B] "Please look carefully at this item as I am not quite sure how to describe it. There is a well worn French coin acting as the bottom this cup that has some touchmarks but none that I am aware of, ie. I do not believe that the cup is sterling but it is likely that the coin is real. The touchmark for the maker is "W & L". [B]My Description:[/B] This is a Scottish quaich, a drinking vessel, made by Wilson & Sharp in Edinburgh in 1900. It is sterling silver. The coin is an English sixpence of King Charles II dated 1668. The maker mark is a "W & S." The hallmarks are as follows: thistle silver standard mark (indicates .925 sterling silver); castle (indicates Edinburgh manufacture) and a Gothic "t" (indicates 1900 manufacture date). [ATTACH=full]1453155[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1453149[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1453152[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1453153[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1453154[/ATTACH] As I know nothing about Scottish drinking vessels, silver doo-dads, hallmarks, etc., so it took some digging to figure this out. There's a lot of information on the Internet about such things, but it took some digging. I am ashamed to admit I have yet to drink a wee dram from the thing yet. According to my latest DNA results, I'm 32% Scottish (and 34% Irish, so drinking comes naturally to me). Someday, someday...:hungover:[/QUOTE]
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