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<p>[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 3111913, member: 24544"]Tooling is different than smoothing. Smoothing generally refers to smoothing corrosion in the fields, and that Trajan has a lot of smoothing on the reverse. It also has tooling, most noticeably on the reverse head of the seated figure, it's cartoonish and very noticeably not the correct style. If someone tooled that area they likely enhanced other areas as well...</p><p><br /></p><p>The patina on the AP is almost certainly not original, you can see on the reverse it has a lot of odd color combinations going on, and the Vespasian is likely not original although well done. Just from experience I would say over 50% of decent ancient bronze has been repatinaed at some point, it's just a part of the cleaning process. Generally price is dependent on how nicely it was done. I would consider the re-patina on the Vespasian to be well done and would not ding the coin for it, whereas I would not purchase the AP for any price.</p><p><br /></p><p>A couple years ago there was an exhibit on ancient Greek bronze statues that came through the National Art Gallery in DC. It was a fascinating exhibit on many levels, but part of my interest was being able to see a lot of confirmed ancient bronze patina. It's very distinct and hard to reproduce chemically.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 3111913, member: 24544"]Tooling is different than smoothing. Smoothing generally refers to smoothing corrosion in the fields, and that Trajan has a lot of smoothing on the reverse. It also has tooling, most noticeably on the reverse head of the seated figure, it's cartoonish and very noticeably not the correct style. If someone tooled that area they likely enhanced other areas as well... The patina on the AP is almost certainly not original, you can see on the reverse it has a lot of odd color combinations going on, and the Vespasian is likely not original although well done. Just from experience I would say over 50% of decent ancient bronze has been repatinaed at some point, it's just a part of the cleaning process. Generally price is dependent on how nicely it was done. I would consider the re-patina on the Vespasian to be well done and would not ding the coin for it, whereas I would not purchase the AP for any price. A couple years ago there was an exhibit on ancient Greek bronze statues that came through the National Art Gallery in DC. It was a fascinating exhibit on many levels, but part of my interest was being able to see a lot of confirmed ancient bronze patina. It's very distinct and hard to reproduce chemically.[/QUOTE]
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