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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4628468, member: 110504"]On this front, maybe you could call a quarter century or so of collecting Medieval cheating. But eventually, it lands on you that in any mileu with literacy rates in the low teens or aughts, this is just Going to happen. By the sheer, irrational and no less inexorable weight of the demographics.</p><p>In the case of a lot of early French feudal issues, "immobilizations" begin from Carolingian prototypes, mostly 9th or earlier 10th centuries, and continue into the 12th and 13th. Over that kind of span, you can see the literacy gradually degrade, along with the style of the (pretty elementary) motifs.</p><p>But moving backward, nearer the period you're talking about, something else happens. With the late 10th and 11th century Scandinavian imitations, both of late Saxon pennies and even Byzantine nomismae (...<i>not</i> Norse Dublin, so much, least of all this early), the rules change. Not only are the die sinkers often completely illiterate in the operant languages (Latin, Old English and Greek); it almost looks as if they're actively drawing inspiration from Runes. Yeah, Literally! ...And otherwise, who knows, creatively adapting the otherwise meaningless texts along more purely esthetic lines? The Scandinavian penchant for design, around this time, was fairly pronounced.</p><p>Sorry for the digression. But it's easy to suspect that with the Roman -ish barbarous coins, similar combinations of factors were involved.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4628468, member: 110504"]On this front, maybe you could call a quarter century or so of collecting Medieval cheating. But eventually, it lands on you that in any mileu with literacy rates in the low teens or aughts, this is just Going to happen. By the sheer, irrational and no less inexorable weight of the demographics. In the case of a lot of early French feudal issues, "immobilizations" begin from Carolingian prototypes, mostly 9th or earlier 10th centuries, and continue into the 12th and 13th. Over that kind of span, you can see the literacy gradually degrade, along with the style of the (pretty elementary) motifs. But moving backward, nearer the period you're talking about, something else happens. With the late 10th and 11th century Scandinavian imitations, both of late Saxon pennies and even Byzantine nomismae (...[I]not[/I] Norse Dublin, so much, least of all this early), the rules change. Not only are the die sinkers often completely illiterate in the operant languages (Latin, Old English and Greek); it almost looks as if they're actively drawing inspiration from Runes. Yeah, Literally! ...And otherwise, who knows, creatively adapting the otherwise meaningless texts along more purely esthetic lines? The Scandinavian penchant for design, around this time, was fairly pronounced. Sorry for the digression. But it's easy to suspect that with the Roman -ish barbarous coins, similar combinations of factors were involved.[/QUOTE]
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