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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4627462, member: 110504"]This a Terrific question. Imitation of Roman motifs goes back to the 'barbarous' examples, most (that's Most) of whose prototypes are issues of the 3rd-4th centuries. (Yep, some are earlier.) Their origin ranges from unofficial coinages within the borders of the empire, to Real Live imitations by Real 'Barbarians,' mostly east of the Rhine.</p><p>And they continue, seamlessly, into the 5th and 6th centuries, notably by various polities in the immediately post-Roman world.</p><p>It needs emphasis that for the people issuing these coins, the Roman ethos was still very resonant. Many of the tribes (Franks, Visigoths, et al.) had been active as mercenaries on the Roman frontier well before they began appropriating parts of the empire in a political capacity. 'Assimilation' would be too simplistic, but the Roman influence was powerful.</p><p>As it remained throughout the Medieval period. Earlier on, this is demonstrated in the coins, to the extent that you note. At least from his coronation as Emperor in 800, Charlemagne is issuing deniers with his laureate profile. And in Anglo-Saxon England, you see the same thing from the 9th century. Even some of the earlier Anglo-Saxon and Frisian sceattas imitate late Roman prototypes --although in that case, it takes knowing what you're looking at.</p><p>Moral being, I guess, that in history, no transition is 'clean.' The transitions, with the attendant nuance, are that much more fun than if this stuff was really as easy as the 'party line' that all of us begin life with.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4627462, member: 110504"]This a Terrific question. Imitation of Roman motifs goes back to the 'barbarous' examples, most (that's Most) of whose prototypes are issues of the 3rd-4th centuries. (Yep, some are earlier.) Their origin ranges from unofficial coinages within the borders of the empire, to Real Live imitations by Real 'Barbarians,' mostly east of the Rhine. And they continue, seamlessly, into the 5th and 6th centuries, notably by various polities in the immediately post-Roman world. It needs emphasis that for the people issuing these coins, the Roman ethos was still very resonant. Many of the tribes (Franks, Visigoths, et al.) had been active as mercenaries on the Roman frontier well before they began appropriating parts of the empire in a political capacity. 'Assimilation' would be too simplistic, but the Roman influence was powerful. As it remained throughout the Medieval period. Earlier on, this is demonstrated in the coins, to the extent that you note. At least from his coronation as Emperor in 800, Charlemagne is issuing deniers with his laureate profile. And in Anglo-Saxon England, you see the same thing from the 9th century. Even some of the earlier Anglo-Saxon and Frisian sceattas imitate late Roman prototypes --although in that case, it takes knowing what you're looking at. Moral being, I guess, that in history, no transition is 'clean.' The transitions, with the attendant nuance, are that much more fun than if this stuff was really as easy as the 'party line' that all of us begin life with.[/QUOTE]
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