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<p>[QUOTE="Collect89, post: 1718072, member: 15445"]<b>Thanks for the information everyone</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks to everyone at CT including Bart9349 for this link. :smile</p><p><a href="http://www.academia.edu/467038/The_Use_of_Magnifying_Lenses_in_the_Classical_World" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.academia.edu/467038/The_Use_of_Magnifying_Lenses_in_the_Classical_World" rel="nofollow">http://www.academia.edu/467038/The_Use_of_Magnifying_Lenses_in_the_Classical_World</a></p><p>I hope that everyone will visit the link. For those to lazy to click the link, <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> here is some information gleaned from it:</p><p><br /></p><p>It is apparently an ongoing discussion about whether magnifying lenses were known, unknown (or little known) in the ancient world. There is apparently an absence of evidence describing how lenses were actually used. According to the 2010 paper by Harvey Hanna, this “absence of evidence” may really just be an “evidence of absence”. In his paper he reiterates that most of the written data of the ancient world has been lost.... </p><p><br /></p><p>According to Hanna’s paper, there may have been lenses readily available in the olden days. The lenses & applications may just not be fully recorded in the surviving historical records. The link describes that circa 423 B.C., there were lenses for starting kindling fires using the sun’s rays. The lenses were available to be purchased at the local pharmacy. Here is a cute & quick scene from a play allegedly written circa 423 B.C. The name of the play is Clouds and according to the reference cited, it was apparently translated by Ian Johnston in 2000.</p><p><br /></p><p>STREPSIADES: Hey, I’ve devised a really clever way to make that lawsuit disappear—it’s so good, you’ll agree with me.</p><p><br /></p><p>SOCRATES: What’s your way?</p><p><br /></p><p>STREPSIADES: At the drug seller’s shop have you seen that beautiful stone you can see right through, the one they use to start a fire?</p><p><br /></p><p>SOCRATES: You mean glass? </p><p><br /></p><p>STREPSIADES: Yes.</p><p><br /></p><p>SOCRATES: So what?</p><p><br /></p><p>STREPSIADES: What if I took that glass, and when the scribe was writing out the charge, I stood between him and the sun—like this— some distance off, and made his writing melt.</p><p><br /></p><p>SOCRATES: just the part about my case?</p><p><br /></p><p>etc. etc. etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the translation is correct & the date is right, then it’s apparent to me that there were lenses readily available in 423 B.C. Surely the lenses were prized possessions that would be cared-for & passed down from one generation to the next so long as the lens remained functional. (Maybe passed from engraver to engraver). According to the Weblink, some lens artifacts have been found at a couple ancient engraving sites. These relics may have provided magnification of 3x to 20x. I’m beginning to believe that at least some engravers used lenses in their routine. </p><p><br /></p><p>My new Greek coin certainly looks as though a lens could have been involved with its engraving. I just received the coin & will post photos ASAP.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Collect89, post: 1718072, member: 15445"][b]Thanks for the information everyone[/b] Thanks to everyone at CT including Bart9349 for this link. :smile [url]http://www.academia.edu/467038/The_Use_of_Magnifying_Lenses_in_the_Classical_World[/url] I hope that everyone will visit the link. For those to lazy to click the link, :rolleyes: here is some information gleaned from it: It is apparently an ongoing discussion about whether magnifying lenses were known, unknown (or little known) in the ancient world. There is apparently an absence of evidence describing how lenses were actually used. According to the 2010 paper by Harvey Hanna, this “absence of evidence” may really just be an “evidence of absence”. In his paper he reiterates that most of the written data of the ancient world has been lost.... According to Hanna’s paper, there may have been lenses readily available in the olden days. The lenses & applications may just not be fully recorded in the surviving historical records. The link describes that circa 423 B.C., there were lenses for starting kindling fires using the sun’s rays. The lenses were available to be purchased at the local pharmacy. Here is a cute & quick scene from a play allegedly written circa 423 B.C. The name of the play is Clouds and according to the reference cited, it was apparently translated by Ian Johnston in 2000. STREPSIADES: Hey, I’ve devised a really clever way to make that lawsuit disappear—it’s so good, you’ll agree with me. SOCRATES: What’s your way? STREPSIADES: At the drug seller’s shop have you seen that beautiful stone you can see right through, the one they use to start a fire? SOCRATES: You mean glass? STREPSIADES: Yes. SOCRATES: So what? STREPSIADES: What if I took that glass, and when the scribe was writing out the charge, I stood between him and the sun—like this— some distance off, and made his writing melt. SOCRATES: just the part about my case? etc. etc. etc. If the translation is correct & the date is right, then it’s apparent to me that there were lenses readily available in 423 B.C. Surely the lenses were prized possessions that would be cared-for & passed down from one generation to the next so long as the lens remained functional. (Maybe passed from engraver to engraver). According to the Weblink, some lens artifacts have been found at a couple ancient engraving sites. These relics may have provided magnification of 3x to 20x. I’m beginning to believe that at least some engravers used lenses in their routine. My new Greek coin certainly looks as though a lens could have been involved with its engraving. I just received the coin & will post photos ASAP.[/QUOTE]
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